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Post by tnthomas on Jul 14, 2019 18:44:40 GMT -5
Psychiatric drugs only dull symptoms. They do nothing to correct the problem. They do NOT restore the correct balance of neurotransmitters. No, they don't correct the root problem, only the symptoms. Since nobody yet knows why exactly the balance of neurotransmitters get skewed, the best that one could hope for is at least some relief from the malady. And I know people who started anti-depressants and are still on them many years later, because they don't want to go through the withdrawal. We do not know what those drugs do to the brain, especially after many years. And they are one of the most commonly used prescription drugs! Well, anti-depressants generally manipulate the amounts of available serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine. People are left taking antidepressants for years because they haven't been more proactive with seeking solutions for their condition. Sure, withdrawal from SSRIs or SNRIs is NOT fun, but it can be done. And I would argue- well worth the effort if relief from their affliction can be achieved by other means. Sure you see some good results with drugs. You would also see good results, for a while, with heroin or cocaine. Certainly, and I'm quite sure a lot are tempted to turn to(or, continue with) street drugs, being that they are cheaper and easier to acquire.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 14, 2019 18:49:08 GMT -5
Psychiatric drugs only dull symptoms. They do nothing to correct the problem. They do NOT restore the correct balance of neurotransmitters. No, they don't correct the root problem, only the symptoms. Since nobody yet knows why exactly the balance of neurotransmitters get skewed, the best that one could hope for is at least some relief from the malady. Also, neurotransmitters might be only one aspect of the problem. Maybe something else causes mental illness, which in turn skews the balance of the neurotransmitters. Mental illness is not understood, and that is why it can't be cured. The article I linked from Mad in America explains how many schizophrenics have been able to recover without drugs. Also, it explains research that suggests the drugs can make it harder for some schizophrenics to recover.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 14, 2019 19:21:23 GMT -5
Ah many smart people insist that moon landing was fake but belief in something no make it true. Many people have theories and some sound plausible but inherently false and misleading
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 14, 2019 19:34:00 GMT -5
Ah many smart people insist that moon landing was fake but belief in something no make it true. Many people have theories and some sound plausible but inherently false and misleading You can ignore the information about the risks of psychiatric drugs. But you are not being responsible to your patients. Here is an article about anti-depressant use in children. Really sad and scary. www.madinamerica.com/antidepressants-pediatric-use/
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Post by formerlyme on Jul 14, 2019 20:12:21 GMT -5
Ah many smart people insist that moon landing was fake but belief in something no make it true. Many people have theories and some sound plausible but inherently false and misleading
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 15, 2019 3:56:15 GMT -5
Ah many smart people insist that moon landing was fake but belief in something no make it true. Many people have theories and some sound plausible but inherently false and misleading You can ignore the information about the risks of psychiatric drugs. But you are not being responsible to your patients. Here is an article about anti-depressant use in children. Really sad and scary. www.madinamerica.com/antidepressants-pediatric-use/Most legitimate psychiatrists do no give antidepressants to children unless it critically needed you seem to argue about fringe findings but it is not standard practice
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 15, 2019 4:11:10 GMT -5
And I do not place huge faith in opinion articles What I have learned comes from legitimate research journals As for my patients in my practice, most of are NOT on psychotropic medications but some are and it has proven to be of great benefit My practice also includes those of whom are accused of criminal behaviors which I often am called to complete assessments of their behaviors Some were individuals who committed crimes while OFF medications! Medicine not bugaboo... it is management tool.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 15, 2019 5:29:24 GMT -5
And I do not place huge faith in opinion articles What I have learned comes from legitimate research journals As for my patients in my practice, most of are NOT on psychotropic medications but some are and it has proven to be of great benefit My practice also includes those of whom are accused of criminal behaviors which I often am called to complete assessments of their behaviors Some were individuals who committed crimes while OFF medications! Medicine not bugaboo... it is management tool. That "legitimate" research is mostly paid for by drug companies. As I already said, it's easy to make drugs look safe and effective in research articles, even when they aren't. Most people, including professionals, don't have time to read long complicated articles carefully. It's easy to be fooled.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 15, 2019 5:31:41 GMT -5
And I do not place huge faith in opinion articles What I have learned comes from legitimate research journals As for my patients in my practice, most of are NOT on psychotropic medications but some are and it has proven to be of great benefit My practice also includes those of whom are accused of criminal behaviors which I often am called to complete assessments of their behaviors Some were individuals who committed crimes while OFF medications! Medicine not bugaboo... it is management tool. And it's hard to believe most of your patients are NOT on drugs, considering the huge number of Americans on antidepressants.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 15, 2019 5:38:48 GMT -5
My practice is not limited to those who are depressed nor do everyone who are depressed require medication
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 15, 2019 6:30:50 GMT -5
My practice is not limited to those who are depressed nor do everyone who are depressed require medication I never said or thought anything like that. It is surprising that most of your patients do not take drugs, considering the number of people who are on psychiatric drugs. You seem to be in denial of the fact that psychiatric drugs, of various kinds, are being used on many millions of children now. And the percentage of older women taking antidepressants is extremely high. Too bad you can't see this very obvious problem.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 15, 2019 7:07:36 GMT -5
The path to irrationality can be very deceptive You take a view that some exaggerated to push an agenda against medications most reputable psychiatrists do not give antidepressants to pre-adolescent children and when needed are applied judiciously and only in extreme situations I have practicing for many years with mostly an Asian population The vast majority do no seek my practice because of depression My consulting psychiatrist usually sees patients for psychotherapy much more often than writing prescriptions Be careful not to over generalize everyone’s practice
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 15, 2019 7:26:58 GMT -5
The path to irrationality can be very deceptive You take a view that some exaggerated to push an agenda against medications most reputable psychiatrists do not give antidepressants to pre-adolescent children and when needed are applied judiciously and only in extreme situations I have practicing for many years with mostly an Asian population The vast majority do no seek my practice because of depression My consulting psychiatrist usually sees patients for psychotherapy much more often than writing prescriptions Be careful not to over generalize everyone’s practice The things I have been saying are well known in the USA. Maybe it's very different in your country.
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Post by Drifter on Jul 15, 2019 7:37:59 GMT -5
The things I have been saying are well known in the USA. Maybe it's very different in your country. Are you ethnocentric? The USA IS her country!!!!
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 15, 2019 7:52:14 GMT -5
Maybe you misunderstood but I am citizen of USA and what I speak of is my experiences as psychologist
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