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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 13:21:56 GMT -5
www.npr.org/2018/09/02/643761979/president-trumps-description-of-whats-fake-is-expanding"President Trump was bombarded with negative news cycles last month, so he turned to Twitter, venting frustrations and dismissing an increasingly wide variety of things he doesn't like as "fake" or "phony." Presidential tweets about "fake news" aren't new, but August was unique in the sheer frequency of such presidential declarations on Twitter. There were more tweets in August about things Trump labels fake and phony than in any other month of his presidency."AND "The range of things Trump is declaring fake is growing too. Last month he tweeted about "fake books," "the fake dossier," "fake CNN," and he added a new claim – that Google search results are "RIGGED" to mostly show only negative stories about him. He also accused NBC News' Lester Holt of "fudging" the tape of his May 2017 interview conducted shortly after Trump fired FBI director James Comey."(Still hard for me to grasp that he is actually the President of the United States!)
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Post by suds00 on Sept 3, 2018 14:15:24 GMT -5
and i just read that his approval ratings are going up.who are they asking!
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Post by formerlyme on Sept 3, 2018 14:34:00 GMT -5
Ah well, what else can you expect from the Fake President!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 15:58:34 GMT -5
I'm coming at it from the opposite end of the political spectrum, but I agree with Trump on this. Most of what passes as "news" these days is garbage. Real journalism is a thing of the past.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Sept 3, 2018 16:27:53 GMT -5
I don't believe that the news is "fake"............... what I do believe is ANYTHING the Pendejo in Chief doesn't like in the media.... He calls it fake.... What really burns me up is that #45 relies not on his Justice Department or his Intelligence agencies for information but to the Idiotic Fox News..... seriously?!?!? You are the CinC and you have the best IC in the flippin' world and YOU rely on a extremely biased news outlet for your nation's intelligence?!? I suppose if the Marx Brothers were still living you would rely on Groucho for your Daily Briefings.... sheeesh
.... in the words of Bugs Bunny .......
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Post by tnthomas on Sept 3, 2018 17:03:32 GMT -5
and i just read that his approval ratings are going up.who are they asking! How in the world, in this day and age can a legitimate and accurate approval poll actually be conducted? Every news outlet, every blog online has a "poll", who is in charge of vetting the numbers???
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Post by The Inspector on Sept 3, 2018 19:38:39 GMT -5
what you were reading is likely some GOP spin
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Post by formerlyme on Sept 3, 2018 19:45:50 GMT -5
This chart has established credibility, and shows Trump's approval rating slipping. Not just one poll, but an aggregate of several well-known polls (which you can review by scrolling down below the actual chart): projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 22:40:12 GMT -5
What really burns me up is that #45 relies not on his Justice Department or his Intelligence agencies for information but to the Idiotic Fox News..... seriously?!?!? You are the CinC and you have the best IC in the flippin' world and YOU rely on a extremely biased news outlet for your nation's intelligence?!?
The US "Intelligence" community has been lying to the public all of my life. And they were probably lying before that too. This last debacle with the Iraq War was the last straw for me. I don't believe anything they say about anything and I never will. It's gotten to the point where it's worse than George Orwell's 1984.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Sept 4, 2018 7:02:55 GMT -5
What really burns me up is that #45 relies not on his Justice Department or his Intelligence agencies for information but to the Idiotic Fox News..... seriously?!?!? You are the CinC and you have the best IC in the flippin' world and YOU rely on a extremely biased news outlet for your nation's intelligence?!?
The US "Intelligence" community has been lying to the public all of my life. And they were probably lying before that too. This last debacle with the Iraq War was the last straw for me. I don't believe anything they say about anything and I never will. It's gotten to the point where it's worse than George Orwell's 1984. Well.... you certainly are entitled to your opinion.... I on the other hand.... work in the IC and I can say that certain elements DO get information wrong sometimes and some administrations in the agencies become compromised by politics but...my point was overall... this system is better than most in the world and it is totally irresponsible for the president to disregard his IC and rely on gossip news...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 7:52:38 GMT -5
I on the other hand.... work in the IC
So? You think that's going to give you cred with me? Quite the opposite. You're part of the problem then. You are paid to help manufacturing those lies that are fed to the public.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Sept 4, 2018 8:18:22 GMT -5
I on the other hand.... work in the IC
So? You think that's going to give you cred with me? Quite the opposite. You're part of the problem then. You are paid to help manufacturing those lies that are fed to the public. I was just explaining my position. I don't really concern myself with winning anyone's hearts and minds.... I am here to do a job... and sometimes it requires not telling you the whole story because of national security..... you can't have a totally transparent IC IF you wish to maintain security.... Sometimes mistakes were made I won't argue that....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 9:27:16 GMT -5
I was just explaining my position. I don't really concern myself with winning anyone's hearts and minds.... I am here to do a job... and sometimes it requires not telling you the whole story because of national security..... you can't have a totally transparent IC IF you wish to maintain security.... Sometimes mistakes were made I won't argue that.... The US "Intelligence" community, along with our corrupt corporate media represent exactly what Orwell warned us about in the book 1984. The only difference is that with the advancement of technology the situation is much more dangerous.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Sept 4, 2018 10:35:26 GMT -5
I was just explaining my position. I don't really concern myself with winning anyone's hearts and minds.... I am here to do a job... and sometimes it requires not telling you the whole story because of national security..... you can't have a totally transparent IC IF you wish to maintain security.... Sometimes mistakes were made I won't argue that.... The US "Intelligence" community, along with our corrupt corporate media represent exactly what Orwell warned us about in the book 1984. The only difference is that with the advancement of technology the situation is much more dangerous.
That is a bit simplified.... Maybe George Bush & Co. did a lot to your dislike but the IC are not some evil influence out there to destroy democracy as you imply..... we simply collect, analyze, evaluate, and disseminate foreign intelligence.... that is essential for security.... as for the covert actions.... well... that I can't speak to as all of which are classified operations which are approved by each agency's charters... It is done in the interests of national security not at the whim of the agency involved regardless of your perception or opinion. You can't choose what you wish to inform the public as I believe you would like, as some operations, even years ago... continue to be classified.
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Post by suds00 on Sept 4, 2018 10:52:02 GMT -5
there is some value in not telling the public everything.
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