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Post by keith on Apr 13, 2019 16:26:08 GMT -5
I INVITE ANYONE TOO DEFEND ANY RELIGION (WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF BUDDHISM, THOUGH I'LL JUMP ON THAT TOO IN A WAY) AND I WILL SHRED THEIR LOGIC. I WARN YOU, BE PREPARED TO LOSE YOUR SO CALLED FAITH.
RELIGION HAD IT'S PLACE IN TIME AND SPACE (WHEN WE WERE INTELLECTUAL SAVAGES) BUT IN THE NUCLEAR AGE, WE SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE SO NAIVE ANYMORE. CHRISTIAN HATES MUSLIM HATES JEW HATES WHITE HATES BLACK HATES BROWN...GET THE MESSAGE? IF NOT, LET ME CLARIFY MY POSITION....
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Apr 14, 2019 11:49:42 GMT -5
Buddhist no believe in Creator god who control heavens nor do we believe Buddha was a god Buddha was reacher and showed the way to enlightenment. It not as a religion as a spiritual path that each individual must travel
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Post by nkat on Apr 14, 2019 11:54:15 GMT -5
I believe Christians want to believe in a God so they do not feel all alone in this cruel world.
nkat
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Post by birdgal on Apr 14, 2019 14:31:13 GMT -5
I'm with you, Keith. Religion is a way to control people. Also a feeble attempt to comfort them.
I'll never forget a news story I saw years ago about a man who raped and murdered a teenage girl.
He was in court trying to get parole. He told the judge he found Jesus in prison, he was a new man, and would like to be released, if it pleased the court.
The family of his victim was in the court room too. The mother of the raped and murdered girl stood up with tears in her eyes and begged the court to deny his request.
The murderer/rapist glared at the heartbroken mother and with a big smile said,"Jesus forgives me and so should you!"
That is only one of the problems I have with religion.
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Post by nkat on Apr 14, 2019 16:33:17 GMT -5
I'm with you, Keith. Religion is a way to control people. Also a feeble attempt to comfort them. I'll never forget a news story I saw years ago about a man who raped and murdered a teenage girl. He was in court trying to get parole. He told the judge he found Jesus in prison, he was a new man, and would like to be released, if it pleased the court. The family of his victim was in the court room too. The mother of the raped and murdered girl stood up with tears in her eyes and begged the court to deny his request. The murderer/rapist glared at the heartbroken mother and with a big smile said,"Jesus forgives me and so should you!" That is only one of the problems I have with religion. You have to wonder about this so called murderers who suddenly find Christ. nkat
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Post by keith on Apr 14, 2019 18:42:13 GMT -5
Buddhist no believe in Creator god who control heavens nor do we believe Buddha was a god Buddha was reacher and showed the way to enlightenment. It not as a religion as a spiritual path that each individual must travel I agree, it is as close to my own beliefs as possible. I'm only suggesting that anyone's belief system is so subjective, it can't be made into a rigid concept. You know I'd never argue with you anyway Ziyi.
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Post by keith on Apr 14, 2019 18:48:27 GMT -5
I'm so glad to be conversing with so many enlightened people. I need some brainy folks to counter the impact of so many schmucks I encounter every day. Thanks for the support.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Apr 14, 2019 18:58:39 GMT -5
Buddhist no believe in Creator god who control heavens nor do we believe Buddha was a god Buddha was reacher and showed the way to enlightenment. It not as a religion as a spiritual path that each individual must travel I agree, it is as close to my own beliefs as possible. I'm only suggesting that anyone's belief system is so subjective, it can't be made into a rigid concept. You know I'd never argue with you anyway Ziyi.
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Post by keith on Apr 14, 2019 19:31:12 GMT -5
I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH EGO OR DESIRE...ONLY THE PERVERSION OF SAME. IF THE EGO IS INTEGRATED WITH DESIRE IN THE NAME OF NATURE...HAPPINESS FOLLOWS.
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Post by keith on Apr 14, 2019 19:40:44 GMT -5
I believe Christians want to believe in a God so they do not feel all alone in this cruel world.
nkat IF THEY PRACTICED THE PHILOSOPHY EXPOUNDED BY JESUS...THEY' (ALL THE LONELY PEOPLE) WOULD FIND THEMSELVES IN GOOD COMPANY. Luke 22:70 So they all asked, "Are You then the Son of God?"
biblehub.com/luke/22-70.htm
He replied, "You say that I am." New Living Translation They all shouted, “So, are you claiming to be the Son of God?” And he replied, “You say that I am.”
HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD WALKING ON THE PLANET...CONSTANTINE PERVERTED HIS TRUTH IN 300AD.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Apr 15, 2019 9:40:59 GMT -5
Born and raised Catholic... despite all the bad things that have been revealed about my Church, I still have faith... I don't always believe some of the teachings... especially around divorce and homosexuality but I don't care... I have a personal relationship and in the end... that is all that matters.
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Post by nkat on Apr 15, 2019 11:56:11 GMT -5
I believe Christians want to believe in a God so they do not feel all alone in this cruel world.
nkat IF THEY PRACTICED THE PHILOSOPHY EXPOUNDED BY JESUS...THEY' (ALL THE LONELY PEOPLE) WOULD FIND THEMSELVES IN GOOD COMPANY. Luke 22:70 So they all asked, "Are You then the Son of God?"
biblehub.com/luke/22-70.htm
He replied, "You say that I am." New Living Translation They all shouted, “So, are you claiming to be the Son of God?” And he replied, “You say that I am.”
HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD WALKING ON THE PLANET...CONSTANTINE PERVERTED HIS TRUTH IN 300AD. They do not want a mortal to bond with, they want a super hero to fulfill their wishes. To be honest Jesus always talked in parables so His reply was nothing new! nkat
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 12:56:52 GMT -5
Born and raised Catholic... despite all the bad things that have been revealed about my Church, I still have faith... I don't always believe some of the teachings... especially around divorce and homosexuality but I don't care... I have a personal relationship and in the end... that is all that matters. I'm happy you feel that way, rebecca2013. I'm assuming you did not attend Catholic schools but had a different experience than I. Anybody who reads my posts knows how I feel about religion in general and the Catholic Church in particular. I don't ever condemn anyone else's beliefs except when they are hypocritical. (And I see a lot of that these days.) Religion messed up my life in many ways. It would take a long time to describe how, so I will spare you the details.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 13:06:24 GMT -5
keith said "RELIGION HAD IT'S PLACE IN TIME AND SPACE (WHEN WE WERE INTELLECTUAL SAVAGES) BUT IN THE NUCLEAR AGE, WE SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE SO NAIVE ANYMORE." Bravo!! You should put that in your signature line.It's the truth. And speaking of Constantine, you said "HE (Jesus) NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD WALKING ON THE PLANET...CONSTANTINE PERVERTED HIS TRUTH IN 300AD." Constantine changed the Bible so much to suit himself that it is shocking. He removed all women from the Bible except the ones he felt were bad like Jezebel (who was not a whore.) He was evil as is religion.
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Post by nkat on Apr 15, 2019 13:11:24 GMT -5
keith said "RELIGION HAD IT'S PLACE IN TIME AND SPACE (WHEN WE WERE INTELLECTUAL SAVAGES) BUT IN THE NUCLEAR AGE, WE SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE SO NAIVE ANYMORE." Bravo!! You should put that in your signature line.It's the truth. And speaking of Constantine, you said "HE (Jesus) NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD WALKING ON THE PLANET...CONSTANTINE PERVERTED HIS TRUTH IN 300AD." Constantine changed the Bible so much to suit himself that it is shocking. He removed all women from the Bible except the ones he felt were bad like Jezebel (who was not a whore.) He was evil as is religion. Then Luther came along and removed some more books! nkat
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