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Post by joymarty on Jul 19, 2019 21:36:56 GMT -5
My sister was somewhat dx'd with MS in her early 20's and it was stress related and then it went into remission for a lot of years, then she went on to do her stressful profession but she loved it, and it came back like a storm. She passed a couple yrs ago at 68.
The FM dx in my life was Emotional Trauma in 1999...I remember it very well.
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 19, 2019 22:06:01 GMT -5
I am concerned about the increase risk of heart attack and stroke that comes with taking NSAIDS. Here is an article that that discusses the FDA warning that taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs increased the risk of having a heart attack or stroke:
...but you know, while I was revisiting this subject and re-reading the article I noticed one statement that I previously had missed:
??? Well shoot, that is an eye opener, this looks to be the solution I was seeking- a simple medication invented 166 years ago!!! |
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Post by joymarty on Jul 19, 2019 23:10:47 GMT -5
You can even try to work with White Willow Bark less of any issues that aspirin might cause.
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 19, 2019 23:56:43 GMT -5
Yoga is awesome on many levels, and helps in the short term. ...last post in Bob's Yoga thread I posted an embedded Youtube link featuring a Yoga meditation session guided by a young, soft spoken yogini.
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Post by louie on Jul 20, 2019 7:25:58 GMT -5
My stepdaughter uses Tylenol and Ibuprofen daily every 4 hrs. She insists on her daughter using it also. This is ongoing and has been for years!
I've tried to talk to them about NSAIDS safety but it is a habit that have and rebound headaches if they miss a dose.
I take a low dose of Tylenol probably about 3 times a year.
That is not to say I don't have aches and pains. However, I am doing much better with regular work outs tailored to my level of abilities. If I skip working out because I am driving hubby to appointments, I get stiff and sore.
I have OA in my hands and feet and have been told over a year ago that they thought I'd have to have my thumb joint replaced. I followed the protocol of taking it easy on certain things, but as my husband's health got worse, I found that I had to use my hands just as much if not more.
I still have awful days, but my good days happen more often.
I'm going to give credit to working out with a coach 3X to 5X a week, because that is the only thing I've changed in the past year.
I haven't changed my diet, my sleep habits, or lifestyle.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 20, 2019 8:52:52 GMT -5
According to what I have read, FM can result from a trauma, such as a car accident. I think that's how I got it. It can also be from emotional trauma, supposedly. In the early '90s a co-worker at the steel mill we worked got a couple pretty traumatic injuries in a short time period. Not long after, he came down with Multiple Sclerosis. He was told the traumatic injuries likely triggered the onset of the MS. It's my view that a lot of autoimmune disorders can be triggered by physical or emotional trauma.
Back to my original thought: are NSAIDs taken in low dose an 'acceptable risk' for minor/moderate pain? Around the time I first posted I took my little pain cocktail consisting of:
400mg Motrin+1000mg Tylenol+20mg Baclofen. It worked! For a while, anyway...
Maybe I should break out my yoga mat and go into Bālāsana(child's pose). The floor is dirty tho'.  I am surprised your doctor never recommended chiropractic. Even MDs acknowledge chiropractic works for back pain. |
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 20, 2019 8:54:34 GMT -5
I am concerned about the increase risk of heart attack and stroke that comes with taking NSAIDS. Here is an article that that discusses the FDA warning that taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs increased the risk of having a heart attack or stroke:
...but you know, while I was revisiting this subject and re-reading the article I noticed one statement that I previously had missed:
??? Well shoot, that is an eye opener, this looks to be the solution I was seeking- a simple medication invented 166 years ago!!! Always take the more natural drug if possible. New drugs invented by the drug companies tend to be the worst. |
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Post by joymarty on Jul 20, 2019 12:15:17 GMT -5
The more surgeries one does, the more OA sets in. We have an MD here who is HUGE on prolotherapy work and he's on the radio every Saturday and never misses talking about surgery and more OA. Do all one can to avoid being cut up.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 20, 2019 12:32:20 GMT -5
The more surgeries one does, the more OA sets in. We have an MD here who is HUGE on prolotherapy work and he's on the radio every Saturday and never misses talking about surgery and more OA. Do all one can to avoid being cut up. You mean joint replacement causes OA? It seems like everyone my age is getting some kind of surgery for pain. |
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Post by joymarty on Jul 20, 2019 12:54:52 GMT -5
The more surgeries one does, the more OA sets in. We have an MD here who is HUGE on prolotherapy work and he's on the radio every Saturday and never misses talking about surgery and more OA. Do all one can to avoid being cut up. You mean joint replacement causes OA? It seems like everyone my age is getting some kind of surgery for pain. Oh yes, the more trauma to the body from surgery or accidents for whatever the more damage and the fools who get these constant surgeries. The surgeons have great assembly lines and rackets in their business. In hindsight since my hip replacement and all the damage I live with, I sometimes wonder if I could have lived with the groin pain and "spurs" on the groin which were on the xray. If I could go back, but once done, surgery can't be undone. One t hing about the old folks with OA in their lives, they did NOT go thru all the surgeries of today's world and in many ways were saved from a lot more misery. Yes, they dealt with OA but not the complications of today's surgeries. The replacement surgeries are gross bloody dramatic surgeries and the medical world makes them sound like a "walk in the park"...no way. |
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Post by butterfly on Jul 20, 2019 23:39:14 GMT -5
tnthomas, give chiropractic a try. It's a godsend to me for back pain and also neck and shoulder pain. Just find a good one -- I've met more than a couple of crackpots.
As my present long-time (good) chiropractor says "It's just another kind of physical therapy."
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 21, 2019 0:12:21 GMT -5
tnthomas, give chiropractic a try. It's a godsend to me for back pain and also neck and shoulder pain. Just find a good one -- I've met more than a couple of crackpots. As my present long-time (good) chiropractor says "It's just another kind of physical therapy." I just recalled- my yoga teacher has credentials in pain management and trauma therapy, I should speak to her about those services. |
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Post by joymarty on Jul 21, 2019 12:10:54 GMT -5
tnthomas, give chiropractic a try. It's a godsend to me for back pain and also neck and shoulder pain. Just find a good one -- I've met more than a couple of crackpots. As my present long-time (good) chiropractor says "It's just another kind of physical therapy." I just recalled- my yoga teacher has credentials in pain management and trauma therapy, I should speak to her about those services. I agree, get on a regular program, and it can only help the whole body. Just DO IT. I went to chiros all my life with a back issue from 18 yrs and here I am 81 soon and NO BACK SURGERIES and still getting body work and now going to the D.O. for his monthly work for me. |
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 21, 2019 12:59:12 GMT -5
I want to do at least one session with the local chiro, but since I already know and value my yogini I'll see what she offers.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 21, 2019 13:06:46 GMT -5
According to what I have read, FM can result from a trauma, such as a car accident. I think that's how I got it. It can also be from emotional trauma, supposedly. In the early '90s a co-worker at the steel mill we worked got a couple pretty traumatic injuries in a short time period. Not long after, he came down with Multiple Sclerosis. He was told the traumatic injuries likely triggered the onset of the MS. It's my view that a lot of autoimmune disorders can be triggered by physical or emotional trauma.
Back to my original thought: are NSAIDs taken in low dose an 'acceptable risk' for minor/moderate pain? Around the time I first posted I took my little pain cocktail consisting of:
400mg Motrin+1000mg Tylenol+20mg Baclofen. It worked! For a while, anyway...
Maybe I should break out my yoga mat and go into Bālāsana(child's pose). The floor is dirty tho'. Yoga, tai chi, chiropractic, etc., will get rid of the pain. You need to get balanced! It's even obvious from your photo that your spine is not balanced. You could post more pictures for us, if you want. Maybe we could diagnose it better. By the way, did you ever have x-rays? Do you have herniated discs or severe osteoarthritis? If not, then your pain is probably one hundred percent muscular, and caused by subluxations. Chiropractic subluxations are subtle displacements of joints, which interfere with the transmission of chi (life energy). Don't expect your MD to know what chi is! And even if they know, they don't believe it's real. IT IS REAL!! |
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