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Post by oldmontana on Jul 25, 2018 18:27:24 GMT -5
Kirsten Gillibrand: Abolishing ICE is the 'first thing' Democrats should do if they win control of Congress www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kirsten-gillibrand-abolishing-ice-is-the-first-thing-democra... One of the top items on Democrats’ agenda if they win control of the House and Senate in November should be to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said Sunday. “When we flip the House and flip the Senate, I think the first thing we should do is deal with the children who are being separated from their families at the border. I think we should get rid of ICE,” Gillibrand said during a panel at Ozy Fest in New York City. Gillibrand is one of several Democrats who are advocating for an end to ICE following backlash over the separation of children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border and immigration raids conducted by federal immigration officials under the Trump administration. As a growing number of Democrats have joined the calls for ICE to be abolished, Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis., introduced legislation this month aimed at doing just that. During the event Sunday, Gillibrand said she believes there should be two missions for the nation’s immigration policy: a national security mission and humanitarian mission. ============================================= Democrats have lost touch with reality. What a stupid idea! Democrats ...the party of open borders?
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jul 25, 2018 19:10:32 GMT -5
NO... first thing we do is impeach the foolish donkey.... THEN abolish ICE just a matter of priorities. This most corrupt Administration and most lying Administration in history.
Nixon not look so bad compared to Donald J Trump. If you believe that ICE doing great job and really fighting terrorists coming across border... I have Chinatown Friendship Gate to sell you, cheap!!
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Post by Drifter on Jul 25, 2018 19:19:28 GMT -5
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Post by Kady on Jul 25, 2018 19:29:50 GMT -5
Democrats do not want open borders that is a typical republican smear of Democrats....ICE needs to be overhauled or replaced, as the whole country knows immigrants are now being dealt with in inhumane and unjust ways... The immigration policy of Democrats is right on their home page... www.democrats.org/issues/immigration-reform Democrats are fighting for every immigrant who feels threatened by Donald Trump’s election. We will not stand by and watch families be torn apart — Democrats in Congress and in states and cities across the country are already standing up to Trump’s hatred and bigotry to defend their immigrant neighbors. Thanks to President Obama, hundreds of thousands of DREAMers have been able to receive a temporary status that allows them to study, work, pay taxes, and contribute to the communities they grew up in. His administration has made a tremendous difference by prioritizing immigration enforcement so that it is focused on those with criminal records and doesn’t arbitrarily separate families, and Democrats are fighting to protect that progress. Democrats will continue to work toward comprehensive immigration reform that fixes our nation’s broken immigration system, improves border security, prioritizes enforcement so we are targeting criminals - not families, keeps families together, and strengthens our economy. Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to to attack — immigrants.
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Post by oldmontana on Jul 25, 2018 19:31:32 GMT -5
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Post by Drifter on Jul 25, 2018 20:51:02 GMT -5
Thank you for providing a working link oldmontana. Much appreciated! Meh...Gillibrand. She "thinks" they should get rid of ice. I have to agree with Kady...ICE needs to be overhauled.
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 25, 2018 21:35:30 GMT -5
Gillibrand is one of several Democrats who are advocating for an end to ICE following backlash over the separation of children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border and immigration raids conducted by federal immigration officials under the Trump administration. "several Democrats", maybe an accurate statement, but hardly significant statistically. Democrats will continue to work toward comprehensive immigration reform that fixes our nation’s broken immigration system, improves border security, prioritizes enforcement so we are targeting criminals - not families, keeps families together, and strengthens our economy. The Democrats will definitely have to take control of both houses of Congress(unlikely) to make this happen, as the Republicans will derail any attempts at progress toward these goals.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 25, 2018 22:00:15 GMT -5
Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to to attack — immigrants. Well said, Kady! Thanks you Senator Gillibrand. I'm proud to have you as one of my Senators!
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Post by smitty45 on Jul 25, 2018 22:38:59 GMT -5
How about we just go back to the INS and actually enforce the laws without being inhumane. Unless Dems want a free pass. In that case get rid of homeland security all together. Screw it. Let anyone in, no matter their motive and let the pieces fall were they may. Just don't dare complain about IED's and suicide bombers. Call it the new world order.
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Post by Sunkist on Jul 26, 2018 0:09:09 GMT -5
Democrats do not want open borders that is a typical republican smear of Democrats....ICE needs to be overhauled or replaced, as the whole country knows immigrants are now being dealt with in inhumane and unjust ways... The immigration policy of Democrats is right on their home page... www.democrats.org/issues/immigration-reform Democrats are fighting for every immigrant who feels threatened by Donald Trump’s election. We will not stand by and watch families be torn apart — Democrats in Congress and in states and cities across the country are already standing up to Trump’s hatred and bigotry to defend their immigrant neighbors. Thanks to President Obama, hundreds of thousands of DREAMers have been able to receive a temporary status that allows them to study, work, pay taxes, and contribute to the communities they grew up in. His administration has made a tremendous difference by prioritizing immigration enforcement so that it is focused on those with criminal records and doesn’t arbitrarily separate families, and Democrats are fighting to protect that progress. Democrats will continue to work toward comprehensive immigration reform that fixes our nation’s broken immigration system, improves border security, prioritizes enforcement so we are targeting criminals - not families, keeps families together, and strengthens our economy. Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to to attack — immigrants. Yes. ^
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Post by Sunkist on Jul 26, 2018 0:10:34 GMT -5
How about we just go back to the INS and actually enforce the laws without being inhumane. Unless Dems want a free pass. In that case get rid of homeland security all together. Screw it. Let anyone in, no matter their motive and let the pieces fall were they may. Just don't dare complain about IED's and suicide bombers. Call it the new world order. Good grief, are you seriously comparing individuals who come over the southern border to try to build better lives for their families, to suicide bombers and other terrorists?!?
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Post by rebecca2013 on Jul 26, 2018 7:14:52 GMT -5
ICE needs to be reigned in to do what they were set up to do.... not to be Trump's Stormtroopers... We need sane reasoning and not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. We just need a better way of protecting the borders without being draconian. I have to disagree my lovely partner who wishes it to all go away. I think you HAVE to have some structure on the borders but I do not like the way Trump & Co. enforced a insane policy... well this is an insane Administration so......
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Post by oldmontana on Jul 26, 2018 9:41:38 GMT -5
Democrats do not want open borders that is a typical republican smear of Democrats....ICE needs to be overhauled or replaced, as the whole country knows immigrants are now being dealt with in inhumane and unjust ways... The immigration policy of Democrats is right on their home page... www.democrats.org/issues/immigration-reform Democrats are fighting for every immigrant who feels threatened by Donald Trump’s election. We will not stand by and watch families be torn apart — Democrats in Congress and in states and cities across the country are already standing up to Trump’s hatred and bigotry to defend their immigrant neighbors. Thanks to President Obama, hundreds of thousands of DREAMers have been able to receive a temporary status that allows them to study, work, pay taxes, and contribute to the communities they grew up in. His administration has made a tremendous difference by prioritizing immigration enforcement so that it is focused on those with criminal records and doesn’t arbitrarily separate families, and Democrats are fighting to protect that progress. Democrats will continue to work toward comprehensive immigration reform that fixes our nation’s broken immigration system, improves border security, prioritizes enforcement so we are targeting criminals - not families, keeps families together, and strengthens our economy. Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to to attack — immigrants. So you want to fix our immigration system, I did not know it was broken...yes there have been problems but ICE is doing their job. I do not know anyone that is attacking legal immigrants. As far as families being torn apart Trump issued an executive order to keep families together. We are a country of immigrants...most are legal. We have laws and ICE is trying to enforce them...do you have a problem with that? If so why? My fear is that we become sanctuary country. but not one reason we need to abolish ICE.
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Post by Kady on Jul 26, 2018 10:15:34 GMT -5
Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to to attack — immigrants. Well said, Kady! Thanks you Senator Gillibrand. I'm proud to have you as one of my Senators! I'd like to take credit for having said that but it was part of the Democrats policy...
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Post by Kady on Jul 26, 2018 10:27:38 GMT -5
Democrats do not want open borders that is a typical republican smear of Democrats....ICE needs to be overhauled or replaced, as the whole country knows immigrants are now being dealt with in inhumane and unjust ways... The immigration policy of Democrats is right on their home page... www.democrats.org/issues/immigration-reform Democrats are fighting for every immigrant who feels threatened by Donald Trump’s election. We will not stand by and watch families be torn apart — Democrats in Congress and in states and cities across the country are already standing up to Trump’s hatred and bigotry to defend their immigrant neighbors. Thanks to President Obama, hundreds of thousands of DREAMers have been able to receive a temporary status that allows them to study, work, pay taxes, and contribute to the communities they grew up in. His administration has made a tremendous difference by prioritizing immigration enforcement so that it is focused on those with criminal records and doesn’t arbitrarily separate families, and Democrats are fighting to protect that progress. Democrats will continue to work toward comprehensive immigration reform that fixes our nation’s broken immigration system, improves border security, prioritizes enforcement so we are targeting criminals - not families, keeps families together, and strengthens our economy. Democrats know the importance of our country’s history as a nation of immigrants. We honor our fundamental values by treating all people who come to the United States with dignity and respect, and we always seek to embrace — not to to attack — immigrants. So you want to fix our immigration system, I did not know it was broken...yes there have been problems but ICE is doing their job. I do not know anyone that is attacking legal immigrants. As far as families being torn apart Trump issued an executive order to keep families together. We are a country of immigrants...most are legal. We have laws and ICE is trying to enforce them...do you have a problem with that? If so why? My fear is that we become sanctuary country. but not one reason we need to abolish ICE. Well most of this can be answered by rereading my first post.....as for Trump issuing an executive order to keep families together.......this was after the fact that he had them separated and his reuniting the separated families is not going so well as there was never a plan put forth to reunite them......Typical Trump Stupidity
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