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Post by birdgal on Apr 23, 2019 15:56:44 GMT -5
Quicksilver is correct. I graduated HS in 1962. Got a job with phone company. I was 17. I took a month off because I knew I'd be working for a very long time. It was a union job and paid very well. Wonderful benefits!
I retired at 50 with a great pension. I'm not saying another word because I do not want to curse my Good fortune. Lol.
Youngsters today don't have the options I did. Besides, every generation thinks the young people of today have it easier than they did when they were that young. Our struggles were always worse.
Every generation needs the wisdom of other generations. Each one can teach the other. We need to be friends instead of enemies. We need to shake hands instead of pointing fingers. Biden goofed. Imho.
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Post by notbob on Apr 23, 2019 16:22:01 GMT -5
I used to work with quite a few millenials, and one thing that always struck me was that they expected to graduate from college one day and step into six figure jobs right away, rather than starting low on the totem pole and working up. Also, many of them I encountered had decrees in things that really didn't help their employability -- like art history or fashion design, or archaeology. Not that those degrees and liberal arts degrees do not have any value, but their value is only in very limited fields, and are not very applicable in the everyday 21st century workplace. I believe millennials were given unrealistic expectations as to what college or university educations would guarantee them in this day and age. Problems is: the market became glutted with young people with 'general arts' degrees that employers didn't highly value. Many would have been better off taking specific trades (plumbing, electrician, welding, carpentry, etc.) through trade schools or apprentice programs. Liberal Arts degrees these days are a luxury for the rich, so far as I'm concerned.
My son graduated in 1989 with a 4-year Commerce Degree, majoring in Management, a smart choice that gave him a lot of specific job-related skills. Even so, the job market was tight at that time and he ended up in retail management as a trainee, not his preferred area (banking).
My grandson is in his first year at college, studying IT (information technology), all things computer-related. This teaches concrete skills relevant to today's work world. Hopefully it will lead to employment that allows him to support himself.
I feel empathy/sympathy for millennials & those who come after. They face an uncertain world in so many ways.
Choices, choices, choices. Little consideration is given to people's passions, abilities to learn, aptitude, intelligence, physical abilities, etc. anymore. "Here are your options. Take them - or leave them at your peril." K-12 education teaches basics and little attention is given to the traits I mentioned. We no longer have classes related to the trades like we used to - of course, times have changed somewhat on that front. Art and music classes and others have been cut due to lack of funding. Phy-ed classes have been cut. Extra-curricular activities have been cut - many of which students could use as a training ground for future endeavors. Teachers end up spending their own money for student school supplies and their ability to negotiate for higher wages has been stripped in numerous districts across the country. The wealthy don't care about the masses or the welfare of our society. They don't care about our country. All they care about is their bottom line and that includes tax relief for themselves only. @quicksilver is right. Biden is full of crap. Things are much worse for millenials today than they were when I was a youth. We don't need another corporate sponsored politician and Biden will likely head the pack when it comes to corporate sponsorships.
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Post by birdgal on Apr 24, 2019 10:12:04 GMT -5
I remember reading an article about China. It was many years back. I learned that China looks for the things young children enjoy and are good at doing. They encourage the children in that direction. If the kid is a very good dancer and not too good at math, then dance is encouraged and math left to others who have 2 left feet.
I struggled with math in school. It was awful. I felt stupid. I still do. The calculator is my Friend.
I signed up for an adult ed course in photography years ago and the first thing the instructor said was how easy the class would be because if you know basic math, F stop and things like that, you can learn how to take great photographs.
I dropped out.
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Post by notbob on Apr 24, 2019 13:37:52 GMT -5
I remember reading an article about China. It was many years back. I learned that China looks for the things young children enjoy and are good at doing. They encourage the children in that direction. If the kid is a very good dancer and not too good at math, then dance is encouraged and math left to others who have 2 left feet. I struggled with math in school. It was awful. I felt stupid. I still do. The calculator is my Friend. I signed up for an adult ed course in photography years ago and the first thing the instructor said was how easy the class would be because if you know basic math, F stop and things like that, you can learn how to take great photographs. I dropped out. I laugh only because I can relate, though my weakness is reading. I went back to school at the ripe old age of 37. I took business courses. I aced the math courses and because of a great teacher, I aced poli-sci. Business law was a large book, about 1-1/2" thick with print the size of a typical dictionary. I dropped the course after two weeks. There was no way I could've kept up. I had a stellar teacher for business management - very dynamic personality. I studied like crazy and when it came to our first test, I got a D. Fortunately, my girlfriend at the time was taking the same course at night and her class used the same book. She was a good reader and knew how to study so she highlighted the parts she thought were most important which helped me immensely. She aced the course and I ended up with a B. The next semester, I took all music courses which is what I should've done from the get go but people (family and friends) continually tried to discourage me from my music pursuit because it's so hard to make a living at it. From the time I was three years old, it was obvious I had a talent for music. I wrestled most of my life with whether or not I should throw everything into my music career or try to find a "real job" I could at least tolerate. My life has gone the way it's gone and I'm not sorry for all the things I've learned, but had I been encouraged to pursue my passion at an early age, my life would have taken a very different direction - maybe no better or worse, but I believe more gratifying.
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Post by Drifter on Apr 24, 2019 17:19:44 GMT -5
Joe Biden Will Begin His Campaign Leading Trump By 8 In New PollAccording to the Morning Consult/POLITICO poll: Biden leads the president by eight percentage points in a hypothetical matchup, 42 percent to 34 percent. Biden has a significant edge over Trump among women (17 points), millennials (22 points) and independents (10 points). Men, especially older white men, are the backbone of Donald Trump’s support. However, Trump only leads Biden 41%-38% among men. Biden crushes Trump with women 45%-28%. Biden leads Trump with Generation Z 44%-14%, with Millenials 47%-25%, and Generation X 41%-34%. The only group that Trump leads with are Baby Boomers, but barely, 41%-38%. If Biden can cut into Trump’s advantage with men, Democrats would be in a position to take back the White House. Beyond the usual disclaimer that it is way too early for any polling to matter, the one valid point that can be made is that Donald Trump begins his reelection campaign in the weakest position of any incumbent president George H.W. Bush in 1992. read more here
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Post by notbob on Apr 24, 2019 18:18:59 GMT -5
Joe Biden Will Begin His Campaign Leading Trump By 8 In New PollAccording to the Morning Consult/POLITICO poll: Biden leads the president by eight percentage points in a hypothetical matchup, 42 percent to 34 percent. Biden has a significant edge over Trump among women (17 points), millennials (22 points) and independents (10 points). Men, especially older white men, are the backbone of Donald Trump’s support. However, Trump only leads Biden 41%-38% among men. Biden crushes Trump with women 45%-28%. Biden leads Trump with Generation Z 44%-14%, with Millenials 47%-25%, and Generation X 41%-34%. The only group that Trump leads with are Baby Boomers, but barely, 41%-38%. If Biden can cut into Trump’s advantage with men, Democrats would be in a position to take back the White House. Beyond the usual disclaimer that it is way too early for any polling to matter, the one valid point that can be made is that Donald Trump begins his reelection campaign in the weakest position of any incumbent president George H.W. Bush in 1992. read more here I don't know this, but I would guess a poll conducted by Politico would have a heavy leaning of Liberals who respond as compared to a poll conducted by Reuters for example. I would guess, as time goes on and more comes out about Biden's record, his numbers will slip. I also fear Biden's tendency to insert foot in mouth. Overall, I have liked Biden for years. I'm just not convinced he's the right guy for the job - for a number of reasons.
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Post by birdgal on Apr 24, 2019 18:32:51 GMT -5
I'd like to see a woman president for a change. A Real change. However, I'll vote for whoever the Dems choose. As long as they're a decent human being and not an ego driven, half baked nut job, sexual pervert, ugly thug like the monster stinking up The Peoples House at this moment.
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Post by formerlyme on Apr 24, 2019 21:16:01 GMT -5
I do like Biden, feel he is intelligent, experienced, and of basically good character. However, he is 'old school' and could better serve his country as an ambassador or in some similar appointed position.
This young century needs fresh faces, someone younger with passion, energy, and innovative ideas. I'm very partial to Kamala Harris, who has the passion, intelligence, experience, charisma, communication skills, and good intentions to make a fine POTUS.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Apr 24, 2019 21:46:30 GMT -5
Let us be honest.... we all look for someone to be able to beat Foolish Donkey and almost ANY of the candidates would be an honorable alternative to this massively corrupt individual I like almost all of them in contrast to Donkey who has not an ounce of honor and is a complete disgrace as a leader His followers do no care he is liar cheat or do illicit activities. They support fool just on charisma not abilities
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Post by The Inspector on Apr 24, 2019 23:44:42 GMT -5
Let us be honest.... we all look for someone to be able to beat Foolish Donkey and almost ANY of the candidates would be an honorable alternative to this massively corrupt individual I like almost all of them in contrast to Donkey who has not an ounce of honor and is a complete disgrace as a leader His followers do no care he is liar cheat or do illicit activities. They support fool just on charisma not abilities Joe Biden is planing strategical. He knows what he needs to do. So far the other candidates are just fighting for attention. You need a lot of help to run for president. He is working to get the help he needs to start fast and keep going. Joe is building a strategic team. Good planing for an old guy.
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Post by notmydad on Apr 25, 2019 0:36:33 GMT -5
What's the #1 objective in 2020? Rid the nation of the trump cancer! Biden is electable. The top of the ticket is important but #2 will have a lot to say about our future. Biden is old and old school. If his running mate is progressive, the ticket will garner votes from older and younger Democratic voters. This will give us a suitable candidate in 2024 or 2028. We can guide the country in the right direction eventually. Don't dismiss Biden because of his age or corporate ties. He can bridge the gap between the present and the future. If he is the nominee, he should win. Some of the younger candidates have great credentials but the voters may not be ready to pull that trigger. I can see a Buttigieg or AOC presidency on the horizon. Let's not be too quick to dismiss the old guard.
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Post by QuickSilver on Apr 25, 2019 6:20:08 GMT -5
Quicksilver is correct. I graduated HS in 1962. Got a job with phone company. I was 17. I took a month off because I knew I'd be working for a very long time. It was a union job and paid very well. Wonderful benefits! I retired at 50 with a great pension. I'm not saying another word because I do not want to curse my Good fortune. Lol. Youngsters today don't have the options I did. Besides, every generation thinks the young people of today have it easier than they did when they were that young. Our struggles were always worse. Every generation needs the wisdom of other generations. Each one can teach the other. We need to be friends instead of enemies. We need to shake hands instead of pointing fingers. Biden goofed. Imho.
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Post by Kady on Apr 25, 2019 6:44:02 GMT -5
I just watched the video announcing Biden's running for president....he said what needs to be said..."the nation is in a battle for its soul"
I still have faith in him...they all need to get seriously tough on old Lizard brain.
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Post by ed on Apr 25, 2019 7:04:42 GMT -5
Good morning to all- Biden is OK. Any of the other non-republicans running for President is OK
I never thought I'd be in a position and frame of mind where I'd say, "ANYONE instead of _________." I always thought I should have good, logical reasons for voting FOR someone instead of simply voting AGAINST an individual.
And then there came tRump.
I need no more reason than the vileness of tRump to be willing to vote for almost anyone or anything instead of it- tRump.
good day to all- Ed
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Post by helen on Apr 25, 2019 11:33:25 GMT -5
I do like Biden, feel he is intelligent, experienced, and of basically good character. However, he is 'old school' and could better serve his country as an ambassador or in some similar appointed position.This young century needs fresh faces, someone younger with passion, energy, and innovative ideas. I'm very partial to Kamala Harris, who has the passion, intelligence, experience, charisma, communication skills, and good intentions to make a fine POTUS. My thoughts exactly.
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