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Post by 2old on Apr 7, 2018 13:32:14 GMT -5
We have like 11 million illegals. I guess its time to stop that and not have the problem he have today with the so call dreamers. So, immigrants who are productive members of our Country, a State, and a community should be deported? Teachers? Scientists? Medical workers? Deport those who have lived productively here for 20 and 30 years paying taxes and owning homes and building our infrastructure? Should any who came here without going through the entire immigrant-to-citizen process be deported? Should Trumps wife who was working illegally on a tourist visa have been deported? What about her parents? Trump has promised an end to those following family members here when her parents were recently granted citizenship? The broad brush that the GOP waves with its politically biased hand is certainly not "American"! Our Country was founded by immigrants long before politicians dictated processes that were almost impossible to abide by. Traditionally, we have applauded those who benefit our society. Today, we blackball them simply due to their heritage. We should be ashamed.
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Post by birdgal on Apr 7, 2018 14:11:52 GMT -5
Our Country was founded by immigrants long before politicians dictated processes that were almost impossible to abide by. Traditionally, we have applauded those who benefit our society. Today, we blackball them simply due to their heritage. We should be ashamed. I am ashamed! For as long as I can remember I've had, and still have, family members serving in the military. I can not believe they're putting their lives on the line for such nonsense. The thug in the White House has made America the bunt of jokes around the world. We are a disgrace. A mockery. A bunch of fools. Those who called for change should be happy. We went from a strong and respected superpower to a weak and feeble mockery. Pathetic.
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Post by birdgal on Apr 7, 2018 14:24:58 GMT -5
Just what is he so afraid of? Could it be Robert Mueller?
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Post by QuickSilver on Apr 7, 2018 15:27:57 GMT -5
I can say this without one second of hesitation. I would much rather have a dreamer living next door to me.. being productive, paying taxes, raising a family that a bunch of low life knuckle dragging, mouth breathing ignoramuses who support that A$$hat in the oval office.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Apr 7, 2018 15:41:13 GMT -5
We have like 11 million illegals. I guess its time to stop that and not have the problem he have today with the so call dreamers. Well..... believe it or not.... I think we ALL were "illegals" at one time..... ask the Cherokee, Piqua Shawnee, Apache,Piscataway,Sioux,Blackfoot, Shoshone and hundreds of other nations we pushed out shoved aside and eliminated all because the settlers were stronger?? No... I think we need to rethink immigration... My own people come here, were exploited, paid nearly nothing... were no considered even human yet.... On May 10, 1869, Chinese employed by Central Pacific Railroad laid final rails of the first transcontinental railroad line. White men dismissed Chinese as unfit for job, stating that they could no actually do arduous work of grading, tunneling, and laying track and yet... the Chinese, a very proud race, step up to challenge and do so. You would think nation would be proud of Chinese?? NO.... Chinese were subject to murder, arson, and a range of other violent acts in 19th century...... In 1882 Congress passed laws restricting further Chinese immigration, they were the Chinese Exclusion Laws.... Just like Trump spitting all over Mexican and other Central American countries as "thieves rapists and criminals", The country which the Chinese helped unite, pretended they not help build America...
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Post by oldmontana on Apr 7, 2018 16:20:07 GMT -5
We have like 11 million illegals. I guess its time to stop that and not have the problem he have today with the so call dreamers. So, immigrants who are productive members of our Country, a State, and a community should be deported? Teachers? Scientists? Medical workers? Deport those who have lived productively here for 20 and 30 years paying taxes and owning homes and building our infrastructure? Should any who came here without going through the entire immigrant-to-citizen process be deported? Should Trumps wife who was working illegally on a tourist visa have been deported? What about her parents? Trump has promised an end to those following family members here when her parents were recently granted citizenship? The broad brush that the GOP waves with its politically biased hand is certainly not "American"! Our Country was founded by immigrants long before politicians dictated processes that were almost impossible to abide by. Traditionally, we have applauded those who benefit our society. Today, we blackball them simply due to their heritage. We should be ashamed.
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Post by oldmontana on Apr 7, 2018 16:25:20 GMT -5
So, immigrants who are productive members of our Country, a State, and a community should be deported?
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NO! What I was saying if we do not stop illegals we will have the same problem we have today with dreamers. Is that OK with you?
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Post by Kady on Apr 7, 2018 16:43:01 GMT -5
I can say this without one second of hesitation. I would much rather have a dreamer living next door to me.. being productive, paying taxes, raising a family that a bunch of low life knuckle dragging, mouth breathing ignoramuses who support that A$$hat in the oval office. LOL....love it and agree 100%
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Post by birdgal on Apr 7, 2018 18:01:43 GMT -5
I can say this without one second of hesitation. I would much rather have a dreamer living next door to me.. being productive, paying taxes, raising a family that a bunch of low life knuckle dragging, mouth breathing ignoramuses who support that A$$hat in the oval office. I'm with Kady! I also agree with this 100%. A woman posted something on another chat room that said it so well. I'm not going to quote her exactly and the chat room doesn't exist anymore. Too bad. It was good. She said she doesn't want those kind of people as a friend, neighbor, or relative. She doesn't want them in her home or even on her block. She doesn't want to shake their hand. She doesn't even want them to touch her pets! I miss her wit and wisdom. I suggested she check out this site. I hope she does. She'd love it here and just about all of you would love having her here.
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Post by 2old on Apr 7, 2018 18:37:02 GMT -5
So, immigrants who are productive members of our Country, a State, and a community should be deported? ================================= NO! What I was saying if we do not stop illegals we will have the same problem we have today with dreamers. Is that OK with you? Who are the Dreamers?
Those protected under Daca are known as “Dreamers” – by the time Trump announced his decision to rescind the program, 787,580 . To apply, they must have been younger than 31 on 15 June 2012, when the program began, and “undocumented”, lacking legal immigration status. They must have arrived in the US before turning 16 and lived there continuously since June 2007. Most Dreamers are from Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras and the largest numbers live in California, Texas, Florida and New York. They range in age from 15 to 36, according to the White House.
Why are they called Dreamers?
The Daca program was a compromise devised by the Obama administration after Congress failed to pass the so-called Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (Dream) Act, which would have offered those who had arrived illegally as children the chance of permanent legal residency. The bipartisan act was introduced in 2001 and has repeatedly failed to pass.Youth brought here by parents hoping their children would have an opportunity to become educated, become productive members of a society, become doctors and teachers instead of being killed by domestic terrorists in their own countries? Youth who could be good neighbors and a valuable part of our communities? We have a President who applauds neo-Nazis who would kill any non-whites... but those are "citizens" and more deserving of making a home here than immigrants. We have legislators who cut funds for education so as our youth cannot compete with the youth of other nations... but want to fund private schools so the children of the wealthy are obliged. Then they complain that immigrants are crowding our classrooms and "taking". What a bunch of hooey!! Respectfully, I value the many blessings immigrants have brought to our Country. We are so much better because of them. We are so much worse by echoing the ignorant and racist viewpoints of someone who merely wants a wall built as a lasting monument to his ego. My neighbors across the street are from India. Their home and yard is kept immaculate. They both work hard. We are lucky to have them here. The mayor of our community is of Indian heritage. In our university community we have Asians, Europeans, Latinos... so many diverse backgrounds and are better because of it. Yet, we hear politician playing to their bases with "fake news" of how evil immigrants are... and the bases are so gullible they actually swallow the bait. Sad.....
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Apr 7, 2018 20:53:03 GMT -5
There are some who look down on me... because I Chinese.... there are some who look down on Rebecca because she is Mexican.... They not know that we are both doctors.... we both have successful careers.... they not care we give back much to America.... what makes them better than we are?? Because they not see selves as immigrants.... Trump and Company have turn this country into shame... Overseas see us as pathetic. In my country, people regard Trump as evil dictator.... when will Americans decide that he need to go???
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Post by highlandannie on Apr 8, 2018 2:03:04 GMT -5
There are some who look down on me... because I Chinese.... there are some who look down on Rebecca because she is Mexican.... They not know that we are both doctors.... we both have successful careers.... they not care we give back much to America.... what makes them better than we are?? Because they not see selves as immigrants.... Trump and Company have turn this country into shame... Overseas see us as pathetic. In my country, people regard Trump as evil dictator.... when will Americans decide that he need to go??? Ignorant, bigoted white people have learned to only be comfortable around those who look like them. They've been programmed to fear those who don't.
I had naively thought this was getting better but Trump has made it acceptable to express hate and bigotry, so all those people have come out of the woodwork and from under their rocks. I find it very hard not to be ashamed of being American and it's tempting to claim I'm Canadian when people ask where I'm from. But more people do NOT support him than do. I'm proud of those who speak out and of the #resistance. Wish I knew how to get rid of him before he totally destroys the country.
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Post by 2old on Apr 8, 2018 6:21:55 GMT -5
There are some who look down on me... because I Chinese.... there are some who look down on Rebecca because she is Mexican.... They not know that we are both doctors.... we both have successful careers.... they not care we give back much to America.... what makes them better than we are?? "The "illegals" are a load on our social systems. We can't afford them!"
"Oh! The tattooed Caucasian whose meth addiction has him using social service money to buy bread and milk???"
"He's okay. He's wearing a U.S. Flag shirt so must be a patriot!"
"The obese white lady wearing a 2nd Amendment tee shirt trying to pay for her beer and Pepsi with a government card?"
"She's perfectly within her rights. She's making America great again by expressing her hate for liberals.
"But, the young man across the street is an entomologist researching means of overcoming insects that destroy our wheat and corn crops."
" He needs to leave! He's a furener and he ain't got no business being here."
My substitute teaching has put me in classrooms with highly diverse groups of students. A young man said, "You're old! You aren't supposed to like black kids. You really do, though. Why are you different?" "Ummm.... I'm 'different'? I thought you believed you were 'different' and that was a problem." "I've never spent much time around old white folks but they hate us." "I've never spent much time around young black kids. Can I hate you?" I get this odd look. "Why am I supposed to not like you? Is it because I have trouble pronouncing your name?" The look turns to a slight grin. "T.J., let me look behind your eyes. Back there, I see no color. If you want, your actions can make me look at the color of your skin. I'd much rather not have cause to do that and only consider your mind and your heart. Deal?" "Deal!"
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Post by smitty45 on Apr 8, 2018 9:58:40 GMT -5
I'd like to see immigrants come in the legal way wanting to assimilate into the melting pot and become citizens.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Apr 8, 2018 10:34:45 GMT -5
We have like 11 million illegals. I guess its time to stop that and not have the problem he have today with the so call dreamers. Well..... believe it or not.... I think we ALL were "illegals" at one time..... ask the Cherokee, Piqua Shawnee, Apache,Piscataway,Sioux,Blackfoot, Shoshone and hundreds of other nations we pushed out shoved aside and eliminated all because the settlers were stronger?? No... I think we need to rethink immigration... My own people come here, were exploited, paid nearly nothing... were no considered even human yet.... On May 10, 1869, Chinese employed by Central Pacific Railroad laid final rails of the first transcontinental railroad line. White men dismissed Chinese as unfit for job, stating that they could no actually do arduous work of grading, tunneling, and laying track and yet... the Chinese, a very proud race, step up to challenge and do so. You would think nation would be proud of Chinese?? NO.... Chinese were subject to murder, arson, and a range of other violent acts in 19th century...... In 1882 Congress passed laws restricting further Chinese immigration, they were the Chinese Exclusion Laws.... Just like Trump spitting all over Mexican and other Central American countries as "thieves rapists and criminals", The country which the Chinese helped unite, pretended they not help build America...
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