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Post by tnthomas on Dec 20, 2023 11:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by dragonlady on Dec 20, 2023 11:57:08 GMT -5
I love it! Maybe now that one state has had the backbone to do it, others will follow suit. To think that Any Americans would be so morally corrupt and/or gullible that they would reelect that corrupt and morally diseased con man is so scary. I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would vote for him after all the BS he's pulled.
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Post by oldmontana on Dec 20, 2023 17:54:17 GMT -5
Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. And the Democrats talk about Democracy? |
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Post by oldmontana on Dec 20, 2023 17:56:17 GMT -5
I love it! Maybe now that one state has had the backbone to do it, others will follow suit. To think that Any Americans would be so morally corrupt and/or gullible that they would reelect that corrupt and morally diseased con man is so scary. I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would vote for him after all the BS he's pulled. "I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would vote for him after all the BS he's pulled." Me too but voters favor Trump over Biden. Hard to understand that. |
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 20, 2023 18:49:17 GMT -5
Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. And the Democrats talk about Democracy? Trump has not been "charged" with insurrection under any legal statutes, but it's clear from documented events and Trump's own words that he incited the Jan. 6th insurrection, and as such broke his oath of office, which is grounds for disqualification.
That is Democracy, yes, what's your complaint?
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Post by 2old on Dec 20, 2023 20:21:36 GMT -5
Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. And the Democrats talk about Democracy? Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says nothing about "charged" or "convicted" of insurrection. It states "...engaged in insurrection". A grand jury, a congressional hearing and lots of his own words clearly show he did engage in insurrection. He's been indicted for his actions attempting to overthrow and free and legal election. He has violated his oath to the Constitution. I find it hilarious today's pathetic GOP wants the states to be independent, most recently re women's rights. Yet, here they argue against the states removing him from ballots and insist on the SCOTUS to make the decision. There appears to be no way the SCOTUS can hold with him remaining on ballots. Amazing that Thomas will not recuse himself even though his own wife may end up indicted by the DOJ for her involvement and support of the insurrection. Yes, Twitter is alive with MAGA shouting "civil war" and "weaponization of the DOJ". The RWNJ's are now pushing to have red states remove President Biden from ballots do to inaction re immigration. Well, first, the immigration issue has nothing to do with insurrection. The truth, though, is that the GOP has voted down bills that would have provided more funding and more personnel to handle the immigration issue. They vote down solutions, then deem it is the fault of the Administration. Huh??? Smith has asked the SCOTUS to take the DC case ASAP, bypassing the DC Circuit Court. Expediting the case could get a decision in time to get a conviction and keep 45 from being reelected. 45's attorneys are asking that the case goes to the circuit court first, to build in more delays. Delay, delay, delay! He still thinks he can be reelected and stop all proceedings against him. Democracy is at stake in 2024. Those who continue the incessant defense of a convicted rapist, fraud, adulterer, liar, tax cheat and someone who is outspoken with his desire to shred the Constitution and become emperor for life if he can step foot one more day in the Capitol. Takes a really shameful person to continue defending this treat to the Constitution, Democracy and the rights of each and every American. |
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 20, 2023 20:22:03 GMT -5
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Post by oldmontana on Dec 20, 2023 22:36:39 GMT -5
Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. And the Democrats talk about Democracy? Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says nothing about "charged" or "convicted" of insurrection. It states "...engaged in insurrection". A grand jury, a congressional hearing and lots of his own words clearly show he did engage in insurrection. He's been indicted for his actions attempting to overthrow and free and legal election. He has violated his oath to the Constitution. I find it hilarious today's pathetic GOP wants the states to be independent, most recently re women's rights. Yet, here they argue against the states removing him from ballots and insist on the SCOTUS to make the decision. There appears to be no way the SCOTUS can hold with him remaining on ballots. Amazing that Thomas will not recuse himself even though his own wife may end up indicted by the DOJ for her involvement and support of the insurrection. Yes, Twitter is alive with MAGA shouting "civil war" and "weaponization of the DOJ". The RWNJ's are now pushing to have red states remove President Biden from ballots do to inaction re immigration. Well, first, the immigration issue has nothing to do with insurrection. The truth, though, is that the GOP has voted down bills that would have provided more funding and more personnel to handle the immigration issue. They vote down solutions, then deem it is the fault of the Administration. Huh??? Smith has asked the SCOTUS to take the DC case ASAP, bypassing the DC Circuit Court. Expediting the case could get a decision in time to get a conviction and keep 45 from being reelected. 45's attorneys are asking that the case goes to the circuit court first, to build in more delays. Delay, delay, delay! He still thinks he can be reelected and stop all proceedings against him. Democracy is at stake in 2024. Those who continue the incessant defense of a convicted rapist, fraud, adulterer, liar, tax cheat and someone who is outspoken with his desire to shred the Constitution and become emperor for life if he can step foot one more day in the Capitol. Takes a really shameful person to continue defending this treat to the Constitution, Democracy and the rights of each and every American. Again, Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. You can not change that. If it goes to the SC I bet it will throw the Colorado charge out. As the majority of voters pick Trump over Biden it shows how desperate the Democrats are. |
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Post by Drifter on Dec 21, 2023 9:38:33 GMT -5
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says nothing about "charged" or "convicted" of insurrection. It states "...engaged in insurrection". A grand jury, a congressional hearing and lots of his own words clearly show he did engage in insurrection. He's been indicted for his actions attempting to overthrow and free and legal election. He has violated his oath to the Constitution. I find it hilarious today's pathetic GOP wants the states to be independent, most recently re women's rights. Yet, here they argue against the states removing him from ballots and insist on the SCOTUS to make the decision. There appears to be no way the SCOTUS can hold with him remaining on ballots. Amazing that Thomas will not recuse himself even though his own wife may end up indicted by the DOJ for her involvement and support of the insurrection. Yes, Twitter is alive with MAGA shouting "civil war" and "weaponization of the DOJ". The RWNJ's are now pushing to have red states remove President Biden from ballots do to inaction re immigration. Well, first, the immigration issue has nothing to do with insurrection. The truth, though, is that the GOP has voted down bills that would have provided more funding and more personnel to handle the immigration issue. They vote down solutions, then deem it is the fault of the Administration. Huh??? Smith has asked the SCOTUS to take the DC case ASAP, bypassing the DC Circuit Court. Expediting the case could get a decision in time to get a conviction and keep 45 from being reelected. 45's attorneys are asking that the case goes to the circuit court first, to build in more delays. Delay, delay, delay! He still thinks he can be reelected and stop all proceedings against him. Democracy is at stake in 2024. Those who continue the incessant defense of a convicted rapist, fraud, adulterer, liar, tax cheat and someone who is outspoken with his desire to shred the Constitution and become emperor for life if he can step foot one more day in the Capitol. Takes a really shameful person to continue defending this treat to the Constitution, Democracy and the rights of each and every American. Again, Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. You can not change that. If it goes to the SC I bet it will throw the Colorado charge out. As the majority of voters pick Trump over Biden it shows how desperate the Democrats are. I don't believe that at all. Many republicans are in agreement with the Colorado SC ruling. A majority pick trump? Where's the data on that? I'd like to see it, not talking points someone gets off a news channel. There are now 14 recent polls with Biden tied/leading. 9 have Biden leads: 47-45 NYT/Siena (LVs) 49-48 Monmouth 49-48 NPR/Marist 42-41 & 44-42 YouGov/Economist 39-37 YouGov 40-36 & 37-35 Leger Reuters = Biden +4 in battlegrounds |
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Post by oldmontana on Dec 21, 2023 11:42:37 GMT -5
Again, Trump has not been charged with insurrection. As the Democrats are afraid that Trump will win in 2024 they will try everything, to stop him from running. You can not change that. If it goes to the SC I bet it will throw the Colorado charge out. As the majority of voters pick Trump over Biden it shows how desperate the Democrats are. I don't believe that at all. Many republicans are in agreement with the Colorado SC ruling. A majority pick trump? Where's the data on that? I'd like to see it, not talking points someone gets off a news channel. There are now 14 recent polls with Biden tied/leading. 9 have Biden leads: 47-45 NYT/Siena (LVs) 49-48 Monmouth 49-48 NPR/Marist 42-41 & 44-42 YouGov/Economist 39-37 YouGov 40-36 & 37-35 Leger Reuters = Biden +4 in battlegrounds Trump leads Biden in polls Google it. |
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 21, 2023 14:46:23 GMT -5
Trump leads Biden in polls Google it. I just find this amusing-the most un-informed poster here telling those that don' agree with his narrow view to "Google it".  |
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Post by oldmontana on Dec 21, 2023 14:55:21 GMT -5
Trump leads Biden in polls Google it. I just find this amusing-Trump leads Biden in polls here telling those that don' agree with his narrow view to "Google it". Trump leads Biden in polls Google it. It's a fact. Calling me uninformed. I saw that and it's a personal attack and is against TOS. |
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 21, 2023 16:39:11 GMT -5
Calling me uninformed. I saw that and it's a personal attack and is against TOS. Hmmm, pretty thin-skinned if you ask me, oldmontana if you're claiming to be the victim.... |
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Post by Drifter on Dec 21, 2023 18:08:59 GMT -5
Calling me uninformed. I saw that and it's a personal attack and is against TOS. Tell me how the word "uninformed" is against TOS? (Uninformed means: not knowledgeable, not having or based upon information or awareness, not informed) It's not a direct threat, it's not vulgar, it's not hate speech, and it's safe for work. TOS state: link"What should NOT be reported."1). Frivolous name calling (example: jerkwad, fudge head, dweeb, alkie, etc.).I see nothing reportable oldmontana ! |
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Post by 2old on Dec 21, 2023 18:38:22 GMT -5
The Colorado suit was filed on behalf of six voters...4 are registered Republicans, 2 are unaffiliated. IOW, no Democrats were party to the suit to remove 45 from the Colorado ballot. Yet, the poster suggests this is something dreamed up by Democrats.
The polls that have been conducted are all over the place. Yes, current media outlets push the polls showing 45 leading the POTUS. Watch everything from CNN to MSNBC to Faux to CBS/NBC/ABC. 45 and his exploits bring viewers. Viewers bring advertisers. Advertisers bring $$$$$. The POTUS, OTOH, is simply getting things done without the drama. The infrastructure bill didn't get near the publicity it deserved. A record number of people signed up for the Affordable Care Act in 2023. Unemployment claims are at a low not seen for decades. Retailers are seeing significantly more traffic for this holiday season than they have for the past few years.
The POTUS's numbers are very low re immigration. Yet, the large immigration funding bill saw 100% of House GOP vote against it!! The bill included money for more Border Patrol personnel, money for more immigration judges, money for electronic surveillance equipment. Why? The GOP does not want the immigration issue to go away!! As long as they can keep it front and center blaming this administration, it can be used for political fodder. They get on their soapboxes, preaching the POTUS isn't doing anything. Well, before you can fund more personnel, more equipment, etc. it has to go through the House...not the Executive Branch!!!
We have found there is no need nor time for arguing with those who chastise one of the most successful presidencies in recent history while being complimentary of someone promising to end democracy. They graze on the edges of the cult and feel enabled to preach the cult doctrine. They cannot be convinced to accept reality. All we can do is spend our time recruiting Blue voters and seeing each and every one of us get out to vote Blue down the ballot in each and every state.
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