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Post by notbob on Jul 3, 2024 11:05:26 GMT -5
Disagreeing is not bashing. Maybe you could think about what you are posting and where. Your post could also be taken as bashing by some people. It might not be bashing at all, but taken as it is and those people that feel it is want to point in out. No, disagreeing is not bashing. But tossing a Bible verse about Jesus and comments about Christians on a post that had nothing to do with religion and to a person who is not a 'christian' IS bashing. And, as for the other part (of your post here), there's no way anyone could have taken my post to mean anything other than 'I see the majority has one viewpoint, but I disagree with it.' And a link to the post where you were bashed? I'd like to see it too, now that you brought it up.
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Post by dragonlady on Jul 3, 2024 15:20:59 GMT -5
Every day it bothers me why folks can't live their own lives and not try to direct others. How I worship...if I do... who I wish to love/live with, what gender I wish to be known as, how I wear my hair...what little I have left... Things like that are my business, not someone else's. Why can't we live our own lives, do that in a respectful way to others around us, and be content. Greed, power, religion have eroded the cornerstone of democracy to a point where the freedoms and liberties thousands have died to preserve are endangered! Live and let live!! Feed the hungry. House the homeless. Protect the environment. But don't tell me I have to believe what you believe and live as you do! I will respect your beliefs as long as you respect mine!! Amen!
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Post by The Inspector on Jul 3, 2024 22:50:45 GMT -5
I stand by that I said.
As the middle-schooler’s defiant speech began drawing attention over the weekend, the Massachusetts Family Institute, a Christian conservative nonprofit, announced on Twitter that it was providing legal support for the boy.
Why is a Christian conservative nonprofit, trying to support hate speech?
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Post by Sunkist on Jul 4, 2024 1:28:24 GMT -5
I'm probably going to regret asking- or even posting on this forum anymore at all- but why do people insist everything is connected to religion? and this is only one topic!!!!! I hadn't been here in awhile, because I don't feel welcome here after being BASHED over an 'unpopular' viewpoint... Anymore, it's like to ever say anything is Wrong is cue for individuals to go open-fire with accusations of being a magat-nutcase. It doesn't help this forum live up to its name, that's for sure... ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/6265838/images/h4Xv61WFc3X73iSivyYY.gif) " People" don't insist everything is connected to religion. Republicans insist everything is connected to religion. The Left doesn't make religion the cornerstone of their arguments. The Right does. There is great resentment on the part of the Left when so much of the Right's dialogue is backed up by scripture. We're supposedly living in a country where there's separation between church and state. Republicans want to legislate against people in the LGBTQ+ community based on scripture from a book that's riddled with contradictions and ridiculous myths. When you have leading Republicans in congress quoting scripture (from the Old Testament which is essentially the Jewish Bible, or the Torah) to substantiate their positions, THEY are the ones insisting everything is connected to religion. It's not random "people." It's Republican people. Not that it should matter, but there is no mention of any form of homosexuality in the New Testament - the Christian Bible. In addition, people here are interested in creating and furthering dialogue by posting their opinions. Chances are, you knew there would be backlash when you posted whatever it was you posted unless it was the first time you posted an unpopular opinion on a forum. I'm not suggesting you weren't treated unfairly. I'm not familiar with the post you're referring to. I am suggesting, when you post something - anything, be prepared for backlash. Perhaps, whatever it was you posted made you look like a "magat-nutcase" as you put it. Then you'd better have substantial proof that what you said is correct or be prepared for a bashing. That's the way all forums work that I've been part of. In general, I find this forum to be fair overall, though there have been a couple of radical Righties who've posted lies and misinformation. When they were called out on it, they continue lying to defend their positions, sometimes using "information" from sources that aren't credible due to spreading the same kinds of lies and misinformation. They even call some of the most prestigious media outlets with the highest ratings for accuracy and lack of bias like AP, Reuters, NPR, PBS, NBC, ABC, and CBS "fake news." If you're one of those people, be prepared to be bashed.1. In a rather long thread with multiple topics, generally revolving around children's place in the 'trans' issue, I stated children should not be given puberty-blocking drugs/hormones, etc. But while I stated it as my opinion, it is FACT- that the effects of the drugs are not reversible, can cause longterm damage, some individuals reported sterility, yet when they were old enough to HAVE a voice nothing could be done about the harm caused to them by the drugs essentially forced on them when they were young children. Additionally, experts agree that parents who push this on their little kids have mental problems. YET- in stating drugs should not be given to little kids, the reply I received was a comment about 'christians,' 'Jesus,' and a Bible verse. Also, I didn't have time to respond to newer posts before yet another came up- a different individual insisting the concept of two gender 'IS' religion. I was raised with NO religion. My sole exposure to religion in my growing-up years was singing Christmas carols in music class in elementary school. And it is NOT ok for individuals to assert that nobody could possibly be speaking from their own mind, that I must have been brainwashed or 'indoctrinated' by the same type of phoney 'christians' that I dislike as much as nearly everyone else on here. Having the viewpoints I posted DOES NOT make me 'one of those people.' However, I've never seen anyone else on here clobbered with accusations OR any insistence on backing up whatever they say with 'proof.' No, I was not aware that posting something negative about the drugs would result in 'backlash'- nor have I seen such extremes in anyone replying to anyone else. Of all the years I participated in online forums, the only one where my 'not liberal ENOUGH' viewpoints resulted in personal attacks was the first one I ever joined when I was new to the internet and computers in general. Someone posted a long line of topics, asking members what their opinions were on each, and it was immediately clear that only one viewpoint was acceptable and anything else was attacked. Regardless, I guess you've spoken for the majority here- the only way I can avoid endless negativity would be to say nothing at all on any important/controversial topics and just stick to the word games, recipes, etc. When it comes to that extreme, it's better that I just leave.
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Post by notbob on Jul 4, 2024 2:09:48 GMT -5
I've never seen anyone else on here clobbered with accusations OR any insistence on backing up whatever they say with 'proof.' If you haven't seen anyone else here get clobbered with accusations or any insistence on backing up whatever they say with proof, then you haven't paid any attention to this forum. It happens often. Since I am an atheist, I have no problem with people criticizing religion. I have a problem with religious people trying to make everyone comply with their beliefs and traditions - things I couldn't care less about other than for my own information.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 4, 2024 9:43:48 GMT -5
You are right. I agree with you.
I'd like people to keep their religion to themselves instead of trying to shove it in others face.
Religion is nothing more than a belief system and people don't have all the same beliefs or any belief.
You might believe apples are the best fruit and I might think oranges are the best. You enjoy your apple and I'll enjoy my orange.
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Post by The Inspector on Jul 4, 2024 10:47:23 GMT -5
I have never heard or seen, anything like, your statement below, I have heard it is experimental. When someone makes an extreme statement, out of the blue, it is good to back it up. Not sure where you are getting your information? I read a lot of news, and this is not anything I have seen in the normal new. It could help us understand where you are coming from.
I was listening to the radio and there is a Christian church in Boston, that works to help, gay and trans, people.
So not all Christians are anti, gay, trans.
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Post by Drifter on Jul 4, 2024 14:58:36 GMT -5
it's better that I just leave. And she did just that....she's now gone. Sad, that she chose to blame our forum for her own misunderstandings. It is what it is. Bye Felicia!
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Post by birdgal on Jul 4, 2024 18:15:17 GMT -5
I know all Christians aren't anti Gay. After all they are human and perhaps they, or someone they know or love is Gay.
At one time I was a member of a Unitarian Fellowship. They started a group to support Gay people. Not to convert them but to support them. I was impressed and grateful for their commitment and concern. They were very kind and understanding.
They called their group The Gay Concerns Committee. Support is much better than harassment. Much better. A male Gay couple I was friends with were decans in that fellowship.
Getting along is much better than not getting along, judging, and harassing.
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Post by The Inspector on Jul 5, 2024 12:19:17 GMT -5
When I was Young and going to church, it said love and help your Neighbor, not push your religion on them.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 5, 2024 19:12:42 GMT -5
I remember those days.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 9, 2024 15:50:28 GMT -5
Sunkist I'm on your side and I'm sorry if I came across any other way.
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