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Post by The Inspector on Jan 9, 2024 11:37:15 GMT -5
The fact of the Civil War is that states seceded because they didn’t like the results of an election.
“I’m not trying to be waving my hands like some crazy historian, but I think we take for granted that our democracy will always be intact, and the Civil War was a moment when it wasn’t,” she said.
On Monday, President Joe Biden compared Trump supporters who won’t accept the outcome of the 2020 presidential election with former Confederates who embraced the “lost cause” view of the Civil War, which saw the war from the perspective of White Southerners and sidestepped the issue of slavery.
“Now, we’re living in an era of a second lost cause,” Biden said. “Once again, there are some in this country trying to turn a loss into a lie. A lie which if allowed to live will once again bring terrible damage to this country. This time the lie is about the 2020 election.”
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Post by 2old on Jan 9, 2024 12:43:46 GMT -5
The lies and conspiracies the have become the backbone of a cult will be passed on to generations. Decades from now, there will still be people wearing red hats and proclaiming the 2020 election was "stolen". This is not something that will die when 45 is either imprisoned or is 6' underground.
Even if Democracy survives, significant and long lasting damage has been done. The SCOTUS is compromised. No decision from the SCOTUS for years will be looked at as simply confirming Constitutional Law. Congress is compromised. MAGA has seen people with no more than a complimentary GED be part of our legislative process. People with zero education in, familiarity with or interest in Congressional duties have been elected to the body. And, seems those with the least knowledge...or common sense...are the loudest voices. SCOTUS Justices are appointed for life! A congressional member can serve the remainder of their days on the Earth...if reelected. And, with Citizens United the least and noisiest can see millions flow into campaign funds and be reelected by money, not performance...or patriotism.
The healing will not be finalized until I have long left this world. Our kids and grandkids will still be dealing with the lies for a long, long time...just as some in the Southern States still wave Confederate flags and worship statues of Confederate military generals.
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Post by birdgal on Jan 9, 2024 16:05:20 GMT -5
Sore losers. Plain and simple. Silly too. They don't seem to be aware that women and men lost their lives so they could walk around waving another flag.
Insulting to our heros and heroines who lost their lives for them to even be able to protest.
The war is over. You lost. Grow up. This is the United States. Our flag is Old Glory. Stars and stripes forever. One united country. One. Not two. Why the hell is that so difficult to understand?
Let it go already! One country not two.
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Post by The Inspector on Jan 10, 2024 0:55:01 GMT -5
Many people are attracted to a strong man, who hate the people they hate, and has no empathy, and good sense not to mistreat them. It is hard to mess with people lives when they have, rights. But no empathy, no common sense, no need to follow the law, You get what look like Quick easy fixes. But to stop, those so-called Quick, easy fixes, is why we had a revolution some time along.
People have had the baby boomer running things for so long, the kids have no Idea, that it takes work, and involvement to make Democracy work!
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