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Post by nkat on Dec 11, 2023 21:25:37 GMT -5
Why bring up the border, because any good that Biden did or will do is being overshadowed by the illegals pouring into the country. Maybe Biden should include the border in his plan to shore up a win in the next election. Living in PA, I never realized the problem the border states have with people from all over just walking in as if they are entitled. They are given a place to stay, money,, free healthcare. I do not blame them for coming and most not walking here rolling their luggage.. Everyone is welcome legally.
Nkat
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Post by Drifter on Dec 11, 2023 22:11:53 GMT -5
Why bring up the border, because any good that Biden did or will do is being overshadowed by the illegals pouring into the country. Maybe Biden should include the border in his plan to shore up a win in the next election. Living in PA, I never realized the problem the border states have with people from all over just walking in as if they are entitled. They are given a place to stay, money,, free healthcare. I do not blame them for coming and most not walking here rolling their luggage.. Everyone is welcome legally. Nkat But, Bidenomics isn't about borders. It's about growing the economy from the middle out and the bottom up. It's up to Congress to come up with a border package deal, work it out, pass one and send it to Biden's desk. Walking in...how many people were bused all over our country by republicans? Perhaps where they landed, they should have been bused back to where they started from and let those states deal with them. This issue became a huge problem from the Governors of those states doing what they did. That's where the blame belongs! I live in PA too. I don't see a problem in my city, do you in yours?
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Post by The Inspector on Dec 12, 2023 1:01:22 GMT -5
I was glad to see the Massachusetts legislators add some money to temp. housing for the immigrants, if they have housing, and pass the test, they can get a driver license, hopefully a job, if they can get the papers. Things are very good here, glad to be in Massachusetts, Boston, been getting the homeless off the street. Thing are very stable, I have to laugh at the Nikki Haley TV ad, not sure what country she is talking about. The only trouble is caused by too many guns in Boston. That's not Biden's fault.
Ms. Haley narrates the ad, and she does not mention Mr. Trump or President Biden. She twice refers to “chaos” — “chaos on our streets and college campuses,” and a need to leave behind “the chaos of the past,” reflecting concerns about Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump that have animated centrist Republicans.
To drive home the point, the ad shows security-camera footage of hooded figures shooting guns on a street, as well as images of pro-Palestinian protests and American flags being burned.
I assure you there is no chaos on our streets, or on college campuses. Is the Palestinian, Israel war, causing some student, to be very angry, and others to be scared, yes, but wars do that, hopefully it will end soon. Thing have come back to normal, Christmas Santa's doing what they have done for years, people shopping for "that toy", Santa parades messing up traffic, if this is Chaos, I hope we get more. Merry Christmas, all is happy and bright!
And Gas prices are down
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Post by nkat on Dec 12, 2023 12:03:54 GMT -5
Drifter there is a plan of row houses called Prospect Park a few towns over full of migrants that the police are constantly going to for drugs, alcohol causing fights. I wrote about the store in Belle Vernon before , migrants begging for money by illegals blocking shopping carts until people paid them, women saying they have 5 children that need a place to sleep. When a man offered them his points to stay at a local hotel, they refused it saying you Americans are all alike and walked away. Our fields are bare now for farming and not too many hotels for maid and laundry services. How many restaurants need dish washers? Where are all the doctors, nurses and engineers that our country needs among these illegals ?
Inspector, what kind of job In Massachusetts would these so called asylum seekers get in order to afford a car to use that driver’s license and to get out of temp housing? I have been to your state , know people who live there, and it is not cheap to live there.
Nkat Close the border and process the people already roaming our country. Biden can do this.
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 12, 2023 12:12:41 GMT -5
They are given a place to stay, money,, free healthcare. I have a hard time believing that, what is the source of that information?
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Post by Drifter on Dec 12, 2023 13:56:52 GMT -5
Close the border and process the people already roaming our country. Biden can do this. Wrong. Biden cannot do that. Blame the republican House Reps! GOP BORDER FRAUD EXPOSED AS HOUSE REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO STAY IN SESSION TO PASS DEALRepublicans want to go home for Christmas, and Speaker Mike Johnson made it clear that he won’t keep the House in session to pass Ukraine aid and a border deal.Speaker Johnson was trying to blame the Senate, but if the border is such an urgent matter, why won’t Republicans in the House stay in session to get the Senate more time to hammer out a deal? Just so we’re all clear, the taxpayers pay House Republicans to do a job, but they have no interest in sticking around to do that job if it will interfere with their extra long Christmas break. House Republicans are going to close up shop for the year either on Thursday, December 14 or by lunchtime on Friday, December 15. At worst, that is ten days before Christmas. If the ‘border crisis’ is really as urgent as they say it is, House Republicans could stay in session for another week to ensure that a deal covers both Ukraine aid and the border.The message is that the border is important enough to help Putin by denying Ukraine aid, but it is not so crucial that House Republicans will cut their Christmas vacation short to do something about it.The urgency of the border issue is apparently an act of fraud, as the real House Republican motivation is to help Putin and harm Ukraine. link
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Post by nkat on Dec 12, 2023 14:13:05 GMT -5
They are given a place to stay, money,, free healthcare. I have a hard time believing that, what is the source of that information? So if they are not given this what are Denver, New York and Chicago complaining up? If these illegals are paying for the hotel rooms, their food, and healthcare no problem in my book. This is all over the news and YouTube. Sad to say that Fox does most of the videos on this. nkat
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Post by nkat on Dec 12, 2023 14:24:55 GMT -5
Drifter I have heard that miracles happen at Christmas time but for Congress and the President to solve this problem in a week is beyond miracles. Close the border, no supplies coming in, pretty sure that miracle would happen.
Nkat
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 12, 2023 16:07:09 GMT -5
So if they are not given this what are Denver, New York and Chicago complaining up? If these illegals are paying for the hotel rooms, their food, and healthcare no problem in my book. This is all over the news and YouTube. Sad to say that Fox does most of the videos on this.OK, so it's FOX that's saying that immigrants are given a place to stay, money,free healthcare. FOX is famous for telling a story(true or not) in order to cause outrage and anger, which is what the audience craves...apparently. I bet FOX led the viewers to believe that all the "place to stay, money,free healthcare" was a government giveaway...I'm actually sure that's what FOX did, again to spark the outrage and anger.
Youtube and FOX are poor sources for true, unbiased information. Youtube uses an AI to determine your viewing preferences, if you watch one biased video it will make visible dozens more to fit your bias. Here is a lie that Rep. Lauren Boebert tweeted: The whole story:
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 12, 2023 16:12:19 GMT -5
Media like Elon Musk's "X"(formerly Twitter) is riff with false / fake stories and "information", all leaning sharply to the ultra-right. One person makes a false statement, another person repeats it, pretty soon the statement is going "viral" with Youtubers taking advantage of the attention getting. It's like head lice spreading through a group of pre-schoolers.
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Post by nkat on Dec 12, 2023 17:49:14 GMT -5
So these migrants are not staying in hotels?. Pictures of them staying in tents since the hotels are full is all bogus? No Money is given to them from the states, the mayor in NYC Is not cutting the city budget for police ,firemen? I saw that on CNN and WTAE. Hundreds of single men are not lined up at the border from all over and being released into our country unvetted.
Nkat
These videos on YouTube are not all from Fox. Other news outlets and private citizens are filming them.
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Post by dragonlady on Dec 12, 2023 18:03:53 GMT -5
Given all the just plain BS available on various media, I think I'd be very careful about accepting and believing any such info - let alone defending it!
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 12, 2023 20:29:21 GMT -5
1.So these migrants are not staying in hotels? 2.Pictures of them staying in tents since the hotels are full is all bogus? 3.No Money is given to them from the states? 4.the mayor in NYC Is not cutting the city budget for police ,firemen? 5.Hundreds of single men are not lined up at the border from all over and being released into our country unvetted. I really don't know, it would take hours to research each of the 5 questions. What is clear is that none of this has anything to do with Bidenomics.
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Post by oldmontana on Dec 12, 2023 20:54:05 GMT -5
While some on Fox News and the right-wine mediasphere might have had to choke out the good news of November's job data on their shows, Fox Business's Stuart Varney did not hold back in singing Bidenomics' praises. One hundred ninety-nine thousand jobs were added in November with unemployment falling to 3.7%. It is the 23rd straight month of unemployment under 4% and the 35th consecutive month of job growth. There is nothing bad about those numbers, and we're headed into the holidays. "It's a resilient labor market," Varney told Ainsley Earhardt. "And President Biden is gonna talk about this at some point today because these are good numbers for Bidenomics – 199,000 jobs added to the economy. It's a bit more than expected. There's resilience there." 'The unemployment down to 3.7%. He'll tout that, big time, because he'll say, 'That's Bidenomics at work.' And that is, historically, a very low unemployment rate,"' he continued. Bidenomics is working. Don't believe me? Ask Fox News. The data is so good that they can't spin it. It sure beats Reaganomics where nothing ever trickled down. This is happening in real-time while Biden is still in office. linkSome good points but the fact is that under Biden the average family is paying about $4,000.00 more a year for their basic needs.
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Post by The Inspector on Dec 13, 2023 0:15:52 GMT -5
In Massachusetts the immigrants, do get a place to stay, and free healthcare, most all poor get healthcare.
There are people who help the poor, get services, and jobs, if they have 'papers' they are legal, some likely come from Haiti, so on.
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