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Post by tnthomas on Sept 26, 2023 16:05:43 GMT -5
it troubles me to see the party almost turning into a cult. birdgal , there's no "almost" to it, the GOP has been a cult now, at least as long as Trump's been on the scene.
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Post by nkat on Sept 26, 2023 16:27:51 GMT -5
I like Christie, he amuses me. Would not vote for him though.
Nkat
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Post by notbob on Sept 27, 2023 1:02:05 GMT -5
What the heck is wrong with this new Republican party? Who are they really? This is not the party of Lincoln, Ike, Reagan or Bush, just to name a few.I am not a Republican but it troubles me to see the party almost turning into a cult. An out of control, out of touch, dangerous and angry cult. I hope serious, reasonable, and sane Republicans solve this troublesome problem and bring back the true and sensible Party of Lincoln. No, it's the party of Home Depot, Deere & Company (John Deere), Boeing, General Dynamics, Motorola Solutions, FedEx, and Tyson Foods. They have all donated large amounts of money to candidates who deny the legitimacy of the 2020 election. It's the party of fossil fuels, big Agra, big Pharma, Wall Street and the banking industry. It's the party of runaway capitalism where the only thing that's important is making money and gaining power. In short, it's the party of liars, cheats, and thieves that will do anything to gain as much control as possible to make more money. Money is power. As for the masses..."Let them eat cake," or throw them rolls of paper towels. The old Republican party is gone - perhaps forever. It's hard to imagine them fighting back to a level of credibility. Thanks Newt, Rush, Bill, Donny...and so many greedy others.
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Post by birdgal on Sept 27, 2023 6:16:33 GMT -5
They are a greedy bunch of theives that couldn't care less about US. No wonder they keep on trying to make President Biden look bad. I know he's not perfect but I do believe he's a decent and honorable person.
I don't think there is one decent or honorable person in the republican cult these days. How can republican voters be so blind? That's probably why trump switched parties. He knew who would vote for him. Vultures of a feather.
The love of money truly is evil. Money itself is NOT evil but loving money more than anything else, when money can buy anything at all including people who run our country, we have a serious and dangerous problem.
Notbob, you are so right and it's a little scary. No. It's very scary!
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Post by notbob on Sept 27, 2023 8:27:29 GMT -5
They are a greedy bunch of theives that couldn't care less about US. No wonder they keep on trying to make President Biden look bad. I know he's not perfect but I do believe he's a decent and honorable person. I don't think there is one decent or honorable person in the republican cult these days. How can republican voters be so blind? That's probably why trump switched parties. He knew who would vote for him. Vultures of a feather. The love of money truly is evil. Money itself is NOT evil but loving money more than anything else, when money can buy anything at all including people who run our country, we have a serious and dangerous problem. Notbob, you are so right and it's a little scary. No. It's very scary! Years ago, I'd wonder why certain bills were passed...and other bills weren't. Why did it take so long to regulate tobacco, or why was our educational system struggling? Why weren't our legislators passing bills to improve society as a whole? Then it hit me. It's because of money - campaign financing and lobbying perks. When I was 23, a stockbroker friend of mine urged me to read the book, "Power," by Michael Cordus. I was considering becoming a stockbroker at the time. I was naive to the ways of the world. I tried to embrace the values espoused in the book, but I wasn't cut out for it. I did go into insurance sales however - did extremely well in the first six months before realizing how much I hated it. I coasted the next six months on my prior successes and the last six months, I gradually failed out of the business. Sales is a game of manipulation. My priorities at the time were askew, but it took many years before I understood that for me, money couldn't buy happiness. Once I realized that making money wasn't really where my head was at, I decided to pursue music full-time. The reason I'm telling you this is because the wealthy have the same level of passion for what they do as a good musician has for what he/she does. They typically love what they do. They love playing the game and finding ways to manipulate it in their favor. My stockbroker friend loved his work and was very successful at it. I don't fault him/them for that. The fault lies in a system of government that allows the wealthy to contribute exorbitant sums of money to political campaigns. Roughly eighty-five percent of elections are won by candidates with the most money. If a candidate like Bernie Sanders, AOC and others choose to not accept corporate sponsorships and/or support from PACs, they stand only a 15% chance of success. Consequently, most of our politicians from both parties owe their loyalty to sponsors rather than to the people who cast their votes. In general, legislators from both parties are equally guilty. The difference is, Republicans are heavily sponsored by large, for-profit industries and Democrats are heavily sponsored by non-profit industries, but Democrats get a lot of money from for-profit industries as well. There aren't many non-profits (if any) sponsoring Republicans. Republicans aren't getting money from environmental groups, human rights organizations or unions. It's for-profits that determine the Republican platform. It's non-profits that determine the Democratic platform. Either way, it's all about the money. In my opinion, our system will never be truly fair as long as money controls politics.
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Post by tnthomas on Sept 27, 2023 10:54:37 GMT -5
Years ago, I'd wonder why certain bills were passed...and other bills weren't. Why did it take so long to regulate tobacco, or why was our educational system struggling? Why weren't our legislators passing bills to improve society as a whole? Then it hit me. It's because of money - campaign financing and lobbying perks. It's all about pork barrel politics!
I should post in the "Border..." thread...the reason that immigration policy and border response is in such disarray is that there are financial interests that benefit from the ambiguity. The economy needs the migrant worker, but in pop media the workers are
villainized(taking OUR jobs...), that helps keep the undocumented workers living in fear, living in the shadows, thus allowing for further exploitation. Conservative politicians favor private prisons because the fairly tale is that they "save money", but more
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Post by birdgal on Sept 27, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5
They truly are a despicable gang of thugs. Trump knew they were his kind of people. That's probably why he decided to switch sides. He knew he'd fit right in with their deeds, thoughts, and actions.
Not that Dems are perfect. No human being is. We're just not as evil, as mean spirited, as phony, as they are.
I know they're not all bad. We have a woman who is our town supervisor. I vote for her every time we have an election. She's honest, brilliant, funny, sincere, let's us know what's going on where we live, and how she votes about certain issues. I always vote for her and she's a Republican.
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Post by tnthomas on Sept 27, 2023 16:06:06 GMT -5
Not that Dems are perfect. No human being is. We're just not as evil, as mean spirited, as phony, as they are. There were a couple crappy Democratic presidents(Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson) but they would have been held in high esteem by Republicans.
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Post by birdgal on Sept 27, 2023 18:45:33 GMT -5
Dems aren't perfect but we are a little kinder, gentler, more honest, wiser, and cute. Lol.
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