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Post by The Inspector on Aug 12, 2022 22:14:16 GMT -5
we never had a president go rogue like trump
Former President Donald Trump and his allies say that any sensitive White House documents he brought with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate had been declassified, but some legal and presidential record experts are skeptical of that claim — and say that Trump could be in criminal jeopardy regardless.
trump needs to have proof he declassified them when he was President, otherwise, what he says after he is not President has no meaning. trump did not have to ask to declassify them, but if he has not proof, he did. I do not know, is declassification, forever, he stole the documents which, are now classified.
The President can not just steal the documents, that as X-President he has no right to.
They have to go to the Archives, and can be asked for latter.
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Post by The Inspector on Aug 13, 2022 18:30:40 GMT -5
Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned
A member of President Donald Trump’s legal team signed a document saying that declared all classified material that had been stored at Mar-a-Lago had been returned to the government following a June visit by officials, according to the New York Times, which could indicate that Trump and his team were not completely transparent with federal investigators about the materials stored at Trump’s Florida residence.
So trump is trying to get FBI agents killed, for a lie, how am I NOT surprised!
Something is wrong with our society, that people can be so easily, radicalized. Something is missing in people's lives, that they, send death threats, attack an FBI building. When the FBI was just doing its job. It is clear that all classified were asked for and that the FBI knew they had not received them all, so you would have to be playing politics, or radicalized, to not see to the truth.
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Post by The Inspector on Aug 13, 2022 20:20:29 GMT -5
If the classified documents do not have a declassification mark on them, they are not declassified,
even if they do have a declassification mark on them, anyone must ask for them from the archives.
When trump was president, he could keep them a home, once he was not, keeping them at home is stealing them. So it is likely he stole classified documents.
That would not be strange from someone who thinks they are, still, president?
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Post by 2old on Aug 13, 2022 20:43:00 GMT -5
Turns out there was about a dozen DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) agents with the FBI when they were serving the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago. When they found the 280 pounds of dope was in New York instead of Florida, they left the scene.
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Post by Drifter on Aug 13, 2022 23:11:47 GMT -5
When trump was president, he could keep them a home, once he was not, keeping them at home is stealing them. So it is likely he stole classified documents. Home? Like in the White House residence? I'm sure President Biden could not take these types of documents to his residence in Delaware.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 14, 2022 12:48:12 GMT -5
These people had a fit and a half over Hillarys e mails. This richy rich lying talk show host has the power to turn people against the police and the FBI. He is a very dangerous being.
What's wrong with this picture? I think there are still a few true Republicans out there. I also believe those who worship and adore trump are more like cult followers than a political party.
Trump is still a clear and present danger. He and his groupies are getting more dangerous every day.
He loves the attention and the division. No interest in unity. None at all. Yep. He is a clear and present danger to our safety and security. He will never give up the spotlight.
BIG difference between a cult and a political party.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 14, 2022 12:57:24 GMT -5
2Old, where did you read or see the thing about all that dope? I can't find it.
Either someone was high all the time or had a very profitable second job.
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Post by 2old on Aug 14, 2022 13:20:04 GMT -5
2Old, where did you read or see the thing about all that dope? I can't find it. Either someone was high all the time or had a very profitable second job. Satire... a joke. The "280 pounds of dope" is Trump himself. He was at Trump Towers in NYC when the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago. So... the "dope" wasn't there. By the way, just read up on the history of Mar-a-Lago. Really interesting. Built by Marjorie Post... Post cereal... and her second husband E.F. Hutton. Upon Post's death, she willed it to the U.S. Government for use as a place to house and entertain dignitaries. Wanted it to be the "second White House". Government found it too expensive to own. Gave it back to the Post foundation. Trump pulled some dirty tricks and bought it for a pittance. Really interesting history.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 14, 2022 13:53:15 GMT -5
Lol! Ok. Got it now. That's what I get for reading anything before my first cup of coffee. Good one. Very funny. 280 pounds of dope.
I feel like the dope now. It's not the first time I've felt like that and I'm sure it won't be the last. Lol.
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Post by dragonlady on Aug 14, 2022 14:00:18 GMT -5
those who worship and adore trump are more like cult followers than a political party. "cult" is a perfect name for trump followers. They are just as attached to the illusion of him as the Jim Jones followers were to Jim. I don't think most of these peoples will soon change their minds - if ever. Most are self alienated from the "main stream", but feel they have been ousted from it through no fault of their own and trump is "going to fix that"! He's fed them the line of BS they want hear and they adore him for it.
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Post by The Inspector on Aug 14, 2022 22:28:41 GMT -5
If DOJ can establish that Trump was personally behind efforts to obstruct their investigation, they very well might charge him.
If not, this could be one of the strongest cases that DOJ refuses to bring. Refusing to bring charges, would be a threat to the US Democracy. Even if they could give him three years, it would be a great help to the US Democracy!
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Post by birdgal on Aug 15, 2022 17:11:43 GMT -5
He is a sly sleuth. He knows his base will go bonkers and he depends on it. He'd like nothing more than to divide the country. It would be a feather in his stupid red cap. More attention for him.
It scares me how many people adore this thing. He would step over them if he came across one of them on the ground bleeding. And yet, they practically worship him. Everything is about him and only him. Pathetic little man.
I no longer worry about the dumbing down of America. Too late for that.
We don't need an enemy to destroy US. We are doing a fine job all by our self, thank you very much.
What the Hell do his supporters see in him? Do they honestly believe he is just like them, a kindred spirit?
When he said, "we love you" do you think any of them believed that? If so that slightly used bridge is still avaliable.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 15, 2022 17:23:33 GMT -5
If they do charge him his worshippers would go bat crap bonkers. They'd probably take to the streets like an angry, out of control mob for the whole world to see how stable and intelligent the US is.
One more time with feeling. He is a clear and present danger to the safety and security of the US. One silly talk show host has all that power.
What does that say about US to the rest of the world? Not too damn much.
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