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Post by The Inspector on May 23, 2021 14:11:02 GMT -5
The answer in short is no, but they think they are.
religious morality can and does change with the ebb and flow of the surrounding culture. In recent years, several Anglican churches have revised their moral views to allow contraception, the ordination of women and the blessing of same-sex unions.
In fact, theological incorrectness is the norm rather than the exception among believers.
No matter how we define morality, religious people do not behave more morally than atheists, although they often say (and likely believe) that they do.
According to psychologist Ara Norenzayan, belief in morally invested gods developed as a solution to the problem of large-scale cooperation.
Early societies were small enough that their members could rely on people’s reputations to decide whom to associate with. But once our ancestors turned to permanent settlements and group size increased, everyday interactions were increasingly taking place between strangers. How were people to know whom to trust? Religion provided an answer by introducing beliefs about all-knowing, all-powerful gods who punish moral transgressions. As human societies grew larger, so did the occurrence of such beliefs. And in the absence of efficient secular institutions, the fear of God was crucial for establishing and maintaining social order.
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Post by tnthomas on May 24, 2021 17:57:34 GMT -5
The answer in short is no, but they think they are. Agreed.
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Post by helen on May 27, 2021 11:07:42 GMT -5
I've found that most deeply religious people are sanctimonious hypocrites.
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Post by 2old on May 27, 2021 15:11:55 GMT -5
It boils down to... "What's your definition of 'morality'?" Ask 25 people and you many get 25 different answers. For deeply religious people, it depends on what parts of the Bible they take literally and what parts they skip over. Today's evangelical has difficulty with his/her interpretation. It really depends on what his/her pastor tells them is important and they never worry about the rest. Trump... an evangelical hero... has broken most all the 10 commandments. Yet, they bow to him. "Love thy neighbor" means "Love thy neighbor if he is white and if he is Christian and it he votes Republican and if he is against abortion."
I always come back with asking them if they take the Bible literally, then read the verse from Deuteronomy. It states that homosexuality and drug use are both okay. "If man lies with man they shall be stoned." >:)
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Post by formerlyme on May 27, 2021 16:20:40 GMT -5
The answer in short is no, but they think they are. Agreed. Ditto!
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Post by birdgal on Jul 10, 2021 16:31:19 GMT -5
Stoned in a good way, right? Look at the beautiful picture the gal on the park bench did. What's she smoking over there? She must be stoned.
Peace!
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Post by helen on Jul 29, 2021 13:06:47 GMT -5
Define morality. Is it what is said or what is done? The speaking of it seems far more widespread than the practicing among the religious I've known.
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Post by The Inspector on Jun 10, 2022 21:37:40 GMT -5
How they can spend that much time talking about, it, just seems a waste, get out and live.
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Post by dragonlady on Oct 1, 2022 18:15:55 GMT -5
I've found that most deeply religious people are sanctimonious hypocrites. absolutely
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Post by oldmontana on Oct 12, 2022 19:23:37 GMT -5
Are religious people more moral?
Yes, as I find that to be true.
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Post by 2old on Oct 13, 2022 11:14:52 GMT -5
Are religious people more moral? Yes, as I find that to be true. You must define "moral" different that I do.
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Post by The Inspector on Oct 23, 2022 19:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by birdgal on Jan 14, 2023 14:07:28 GMT -5
I don't believe they are any more moral than non believers. I think many of them are covering their own behinds and are religious out of fear of burning in Hell for eternity.
I was friends with a woman I met when I was 17 and she was 19. We worked together at the phone company. I was her maid of honor and the godmother of her first born child.
When she became a very religious person our friendship faded away. I understood because I also went through a religious thing where I had to convert everyone I met. But, I finally came to my senses and left the preaching to preachers.
We were not speaking to each other when she died. All because of religious differences.
Like I've said many times before. BIG difference between a religious person and a spiritual person. BIG! Priests and ministers are still human and can be guilty of committing crimes just like any other human being.
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Post by notbob on Feb 28, 2023 1:54:03 GMT -5
Define morality. Is it what is said or what is done? The speaking of it seems far more widespread than the practicing among the religious I've known. Similar to people saying they are patriots... This is strictly my opinion, but I believe there's a religious difference between morals and ethics. I believe both should follow the Golden Rule as their base. But the difference is, for example, sex out of wedlock is considered immoral, but when it's between consenting adults, I don't know how you could consider it unethical. That doesn't exactly define morality, but morality is a subjective term. It can't be quantified, though I'm sure you'll find definitions for morality in any dictionary. It's like "greed." You can't specifically define greed because there will always be variants. That's the catch...and then we fight about things that can't be clearly defined...unless we implement the proper laws...but then, the greedy won't allow that to happen. So, greed is not moral. Unfortunately, the battle to determine what is moral and what is not is based on human characteristics we all possess...to varying degrees. We all want an ideal world, but we have differing opinions on what it is, and how to get there. So, "morality" is both what is said and what is done depending on who you ask, and their opinions are often ruled by their religious beliefs. We each have an equal right to our opinion. Sucks, hey? This is where a democratic government becomes important - to ensure fairness for everyone. It would seem, fairness for everyone would be moral as well as ethical. Just my opinion.
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Post by birdgal on Feb 28, 2023 12:32:27 GMT -5
No! They are more religious but not more moral than anybody else.
Pedophile priest are a good example. Just saying.
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