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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 3, 2020 14:58:59 GMT -5
Again EVIDENCE!!!...there are so many EVIDENCES out there...it's unreal. Professionals of qualified professionals carry more weight? They don't know. There are how many of these professionals in the world? --------------------------------------------------------------------- On another topic and I believe it was you who said you had great joint replacements, is that pretty true of most Australians. I had a horrid one of the hip and live in misery with it for going on 10 yrs...I know I'm not alone with my experience. Yet you eagerly believe people who are known pseudoscientists.. Just be honest..... You believe what you WANT to hear... You would believe ANYONE touting alternative healing over Medical experts and scientists... I haven't been reading your posts for long... but long enough to know that to be true about you... So don't bust our chops about believing Medical Experts and scientists over quacks.
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 3, 2020 15:06:08 GMT -5
Ah... building a strong immune system? This statement shows me just how little you understand about the immune system... You build an immune system by coming in contact with antigens and pathogens that cause a disease.. whether by vaccination or by natural exposure.. and getting a disease.. It is ONLY then that the body produces antibodies against that pathogen to protect you from contracting the disease again.. Simply taking herbs and vitamins will NOT protect you from getting sick from a pathogen you have never had contact with.. You are playing with fire.. you are old.. and the older we get the more our natural immunities to previous pathogens weaken and the harder it is to build immunity against new pathogens.... Believe me or not.. I don't care... but you are definitely wrong on this.
So the fact remains joymarty that no matter how much vitamin C or whatever else you take, if you are exposed to the highly contagious Coronavirus you are going to get sick... and at 82 it may take you longer to build the antibodies needed to fight it off.. and it may kill you before you can. People die from the pneumonia the virus causes in deep lung tissue... The longer it takes you to build the antibodies.. the more the pneumonia can take hold.. this is why people 80 and above have a nearly 15% mortality rate from this virus.. A smart person would take all the precautions they could against becoming infected.. don't you agree... You just may have to put on a mask or a pair of gloves..
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Post by joymarty on Mar 3, 2020 15:30:49 GMT -5
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Post by Drifter on Mar 3, 2020 15:35:13 GMT -5
A bloggers opinion WITH a Russian link provided towards the end of his article. OMG...are you now buying into Russian propaganda?
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Post by joymarty on Mar 3, 2020 16:30:02 GMT -5
OMG, the Russians seem to control and know a lot don't they. I'm talking to a huge group of other friends and they are bringing all this info to the front. And it's true all the smokers of the world could and would get hit harder...No????
And I'm not "buying" I'm OPEN to a lot of possibilities...
And I just looked at the info in the link and yes a russian insider is mentioned and when I go there it is blocked. I don't see anything wrong with the information.
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 3, 2020 17:42:53 GMT -5
joymarty AGAIN.. I don't care how good your immune system is.. or how much vitamin C or other garbage you take.. You have ZERO immunity to a virus or other pathogen you have never been exposed to... It takes EXPOSURE to develop immunity.... SO... You will get sick if you are exposed to the coronavirus... Do you understand that? Somehow..I don't believe you do..
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Post by Warrigal on Mar 3, 2020 21:42:57 GMT -5
QuickSilver is correct about immunity. When Europeans first settled Australia they brought with them diseases that were present in Europe that were not a big problem. Some people became sick with these diseases, and a small number died, but over generations a high level of immunity due to exposure had built up in the settlers. Many of the immigrants, being convicts, had a history of poor diet and considerable deprivation and were not the healthiest specimens on the planet. Measles, for example, was not a problem for these people because it was a common childhood disease where they came from and exposure was common. It was exposure, not vitamins, that helped them develop immunity.
However, the indigenous people had never been exposed to measles before and when they were, it killed them in numbers not seen in England for centuries. For them the death toll was as devastating as the bubonic plague. Interestingly, they were immune to tetanus (lockjaw) which killed off the Europeans with a very high mortality rate. Contact with tetanus happened to Aborigines in early childhood. No doubt it killed some children but most grew up with an immune system ready to defeat tetanus pathogens next time uncovered cuts encountered soil pathogens.
When this new contagion is over, a lot of people will have died but others will survive the illness and they will have developed antibodies in their blood. By donating blood they will be helping the medical scientists to develop a new vaccine to counter the new virus. Eventually this virus will be tamed by science and good community health practices.
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Post by joymarty on Mar 3, 2020 21:44:18 GMT -5
joymarty AGAIN.. I don't care how good your immune system is.. or how much vitamin C or other garbage you take.. You have ZERO immunity to a virus or other pathogen you have never been exposed to... It takes EXPOSURE to develop immunity.... SO... You will get sick if you are exposed to the coronavirus... Do you understand that? Somehow..I don't believe you do.. Good that you know all about my immune system. I'll keep your words in my mind on my next trip to China and places where I could be exposed. Thanks again. And thanks to you Warrigal, I don't know how I'd manage without all your sage advices...and the same goes when I go next to Australia.
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Post by Drifter on Mar 3, 2020 22:19:14 GMT -5
How arrogant and condescending joymarty .
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Post by joymarty on Mar 3, 2020 23:11:09 GMT -5
Why is that, I'll keep their words in my mind. And if the experts here have the answers we should be able to pull up their answers. Links etc.
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Post by Warrigal on Mar 4, 2020 2:42:00 GMT -5
You're welcome, JoyMarty. It you do come downunder be sure to pack your sunscreen and remember this piece of sage advice - never, ever probe a hole in the ground with your finger. Pax Australis to you.
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 4, 2020 7:40:14 GMT -5
joymarty AGAIN.. I don't care how good your immune system is.. or how much vitamin C or other garbage you take.. You have ZERO immunity to a virus or other pathogen you have never been exposed to... It takes EXPOSURE to develop immunity.... SO... You will get sick if you are exposed to the coronavirus... Do you understand that? Somehow..I don't believe you do.. Good that you know all about my immune system. I'll keep your words in my mind on my next trip to China and places where I could be exposed. Thanks again. Acquired Immunity: What Is It, and How Do You Get It? www.healthline.com/health/acquired-immunitySo... Let's recap here joymarty... You may be able to strengthen your immune system response to viruses and diseases you have already had...but there is NO WAY you can make yourself immune to coronavirus without having been exposed to it in the past.. Since this is a new virus mutation.. you haven't been.. None of us are immune.. If you are in contact with it.. You are going to get sick.. and at 82 do you really want that to happen? Stop being reckless.
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 4, 2020 7:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by TheSource on Mar 4, 2020 7:54:07 GMT -5
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 4, 2020 7:57:22 GMT -5
Acquired Immunity: What Is It, and How Do You Get It? OMG!!!!
Is there a vaccination for that???
I'm outta here before I get it.... Run like the wind thesource!!!
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