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Post by Drifter on Jan 3, 2020 0:05:30 GMT -5
Iran's Qassem Soleimani killed in US air raid at Baghdad airportGeneral Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force and architect of its regional security apparatus, has been killed following a US air raid at Baghdad's international airport on Friday. The White House and the Pentagon confirmed the killing of Soleimani in Iraq, saying the attack was carried out at the direction of US President Donald Trump and was aimed at deterring future attacks allegedly being planned by Iran. Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has condemned the killing as an "act of international terrorism." "The US bears responsibility for all consequences of its rogue adventurism." Iraqi officials and the state television reported that aside from Soleimani, Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis was also killed in the pre-dawn raid. Read more here: www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/iraq-3-katyusha-rockets-fired-baghdad-airport-200102232817666.html
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Post by dragonlady on Jan 3, 2020 0:40:46 GMT -5
One has to wonder if trump is rattling his saber in hopes of salvaging his presidency.
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Post by Warrigal on Jan 3, 2020 3:34:34 GMT -5
This is what one of our Independent members of parliament has to say about this - Andrew is a man of integrity and he is no dill.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Jan 3, 2020 11:08:22 GMT -5
Trump has always had issue with Iran.... why? Well part of the reason is that Obama and the international community did suppress a lot of their activities with treaty that he blew up because his ego can not tolerate any success that Obama had. This basic mania started long ago when President Obama roasted Trump at the Correspondents Dinner Trump was laughed at and humiliated This was the tipping point psychologically for Donald He went hellbent to undo everything Obama did Donald first is a racist who can not allow The Obama Legacy to be more important than his tiny little mind sees his own legacy and Donald is a vindictive SOB who NEVER forgets slights against him He will take us to war just to make himself look great. Everything he does is to promote himself only... He could give flying fudge what happens only if he looks like Putin a great generalissimo Trump is often called “a clear and present danger” to the United States..... this is not just partisan mudsling this is a fact in motion....... from a wounded Deep State member shaking her head......
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Post by Kady on Jan 3, 2020 12:24:22 GMT -5
.....I'd hate to have a child or grandchild in the service with Trump at the helm.
How many have to die so he can be president again?
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Post by rebecca2013 on Jan 3, 2020 12:31:11 GMT -5
.....I'd hate to have a child or grandchild in the service with Trump at the helm. How many have to die so he can be president again? I hate the fact that so many will die because of an ego he is a criminal not a president I have to take orders from the office of the President but taking orders from this idiot is like being the executive officer for Captain Kangaroo bah!!
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Post by Kady on Jan 3, 2020 12:47:32 GMT -5
Trump explains how starting a war with Iran helps re-election chances thehill.com/homenews/administration/476631-trump-repeatedly-said-obama-would-start-war-with-iran-to-get-electedPresident Trump repeatedly suggested before he was elected to the White House that then-President Obama would start a war with Iran to get reelected. Trump's remarks have won renewed attention in the wake of the Thursday night airstrike he authorized that killed Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the powerful Iranian military commander who led the elite Quds Force. The strikes, which come amid high U.S.-Iranian tensions and a month before the Iowa caucuses, took place in an election year for Trump.
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Post by helen on Jan 3, 2020 14:14:53 GMT -5
If Iran did not have a natural resource that we covet, no one in Washington would know where it was or how to spell it. Go to war on principle, not greed.
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Post by Drifter on Jan 3, 2020 14:37:12 GMT -5
.....I'd hate to have a child or grandchild in the service with Trump at the helm. Some of us do have a child or grandchild in his service. We can only hope they stay safe. How many have to die so he can be president again? Eric & Tiffany trump are of age...lets get them to sign up and service in their daddy's war.
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Post by rebecca2013 on Jan 3, 2020 15:49:34 GMT -5
What burns my biscuits is Trump praising the Intelligence Community for providing all the needed intelligence for this operation the SAME IC he ranted that were traitors and “bad actors” and are all in the “Deep State” this idiot only picks and chooses things to support himself Whether you agree with what this operation accomplished or not It does not change the fact that our IC are not partisan puppets nor traitors......
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Post by Kady on Jan 3, 2020 17:30:37 GMT -5
....he's probably setting up the IC for the fall guy when everything goes South.
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Post by Warrigal on Jan 3, 2020 18:09:03 GMT -5
Found this thread on Twitter and from my point of view, and from the historical perspective, it rings true.
For those of you who didn’t live through the invasion of Iraq, here is what is about to happen:
1. There will be a MASSIVE propaganda push (by Republicans) to frame this act of war as a moral necessity and to act like anyone who opposes it is working for “the enemy.”
2. The propaganda push will include enormous appeals to American militarism disguised as patriotism: flag pins, flyovers, reverent cries to “support the troops,” as if the greatest support you can offer the troops isn’t to keep them from dying for no good reason.
3. Over time, this vague appeal to patriotism and militarism will start to have a specific aim, an invasion, bombings, the takeover of oil fields, the support of proxy wars. These aims will magically align with the financial interests of multi-national corporations.
4. The people in harm's way -- innocent civilians in Iran, mostly -- will be framed and/or dehumanized as "the enemy." This will include everything from racial slurs to endless talking points about their "blood thirst" their "hatred of freedom and Americans." It's utter bullsh*t.
5. When the bombs start to drop, all of the reporting will be about the small number of US troop casualties. For example, most Americans know roughly 4,000 US troops died in Iraq. What most Americans don't know is over 200,000 Iraqi CIVILIANS were killed.
6. This horror too, this murder of children, of families, the bombing of weddings & birthdays, this destruction of entire regions, will be swept up under the guise of American militarism (disguised as patriotism), of "supporting our troops," who are "fighting for our freedom."
7. In the end, and there will be an end -- this isn't the beginning of World War III, this is asymmetrical slaughter -- the vast number of dead will be people who don't even know why the war was waged, they will be mostly young, innocent and brown-skinned. That is the ugly truth.
8. And even the US troops -- most of whom signed up out of a genuine desire to protect their country -- they will be abandoned too as the people who waged the war, who made such big promises of "support for the troops" will CUT veterans medical care, forget the dead and move on.
9. And the only people who will have benefitted will be those massive multi-national corporations -- oil and weapons manufacturers mostly -- who rushed in to profit off the death of all those innocent brown-skinned children lying in the rubble.
10. A couple more things:
The media (especially cable news) LOVES a war. They love the spectacle, the drama. It means big profits. It means eyeballs on screens. It makes stars of their anchors. They will ask the wrong questions, they will follow militaristic talking points.
11. Cable news will try to EMPOWER the warmongers, by accepting rumors of impending harm to Americans as real news, by making stars of the "brutal enemies" handed to them by the Republican propaganda machine. You can practically see them salivate over the possibility for profit.
12. What will get lost in all this bickering and drama and tragedy and spectacle is the fact that all of this was AVOIDABLE. That Trump inherited a reigned-in Iran, that he set in motion an escalation to war because he thought it would benefit HIM.
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Post by smitty45 on Jan 3, 2020 18:34:12 GMT -5
What trump did? If that was done to us it would be an act of war, Considering it was ordered by a Government official. In this case, The of the United States of America. I'm a man of reason,,, I don't think it's a pipe dream that all Republicans all over the country agree with what Trump ordered knowing the possible consequences. Any parent that wants their kid to go to war really should have their head examined. IMO
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Post by tnthomas on Jan 3, 2020 19:19:16 GMT -5
Go to war on principle, not greed. Sadly, it's been a looong while since that happened...
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Jan 3, 2020 19:35:37 GMT -5
No war is justified.... the killing of people because of revenge or rhetoric just does not make it justified War is the result when diplomacy fails
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