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Post by 2old on Aug 19, 2019 20:40:46 GMT -5
Okay. My evil mind got to thinking about this Trump/Greenland fiasco. Why would Trump want to purchase Greenland? Natural resources? Maybe some of his cronies could profit, but how would that enrich him? Something is amiss. I asked, "Does Denmark... Denmark owns Greenland... have an extradition treaty with the U.S.?" They do. So, I pulled up that treaty and began to read.
The extradition treaty between Denmark and the U.S. was signed by President Nixon in 1972. The following is one of the exceptions given where extradition would NOT be granted.
4. If the offense for which his extradition is requested is a political offense or an offense
connected with a political offense, or if the requested State has reason to assume that the
requisition for his surrender has, in fact, been made with a view to try or punish him for a
political offense or an offense connected with a political offense. If any question arises as to
whether a case comes within the provisions of this subparagraph, it shall be decided by the
authorities of the requested State.
This is similar to the Iceland/Denmark extradition treaty.
ARTICLE VI
A fugitive criminal shall not be surrendered if the offense in respect of which his surrender is
demanded be of a political character, or if he proves that the requisition for his surrender has,
in fact, been made with a view to try or punish him for an offense of a political character.
No person surrendered by either of the high contracting parties to the other shall be triable or
tried, or be punished for any political crime or offense, or for any act connected therewith,
committed previously to his extradition.
If Denmark was willing to sell Greenland to the U.S. and Trump sought asylum there the U.S. could purchase that island and bring him back for trial/prison. His "fishing expedition" has found that Denmark will NOT sell Greenland. Hence, if he could purchase property there... he could build there... live there... and not fear extradition to the U.S. Now, the natural resources of Greenland come into play. Trump is smart/crooked/corrupt enough to get his hand on those resources... especially if he is living there.
I wish the FBI or intelligence agencies were keeping an eye on Trump's money. If he begins to move money from the U.S. to foreign banks... look out! If he, through a shell corporation, begins purchasing land in Greenland... look out! If he ends up losing the 2020 election and the Democrats can turn the Senate, Trump won't have a waking moment he isn't being questioned, indicted, or tried for his actions while POTUS. He knows this! Why not have a plan in the works where he could hop on his private plane and, within hours, be unavailable for any potential consequences pertinent to his time in office?
Surely, that conspiracy theory can't be any more unbelievable than some of the Clinton murder theories.....
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Post by rebecca2013 on Aug 19, 2019 22:42:55 GMT -5
Interesting theory the problem is I really can’t see Trump thinking ahead His ego also won’t allow him to accept anything close to defeat This is why unlike Richard Nixon Trump would not resign “We” typically don’t look into domestic issues even including in our strange world, the presidency but the FBI does and who is to say they are not peeking into him., I don’t know folks in counterintelligence over there well enough to say for sure I actually from a psychological perspective I think Trumps is beginning to unravel, especially if the economy begins to tank as it is beginning to look like. His whole presidency depends not on immigration or the Wall or any other promise but the economic boom. The problem is the economy was never that great under those wild tax cuts to the 1% and corporations the deficit went up to unreal heights the tariffs are a stupid move and now he and the rest sit and lie that China feels the entire tariff while our farmers go rapidly bankrupt He is nothing but a con man and screwing around with people’s money will be a fatal mistake I believe this is happening as we sit here! Trump is a lousy businessman and forget being a president.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:33:05 GMT -5
Obviously, the president didn't discover this on his own, 2old and rebecca2013. Someone on his staff is working hard to keep him out of prison. I wondered why he started talking about buying Greenland all of a sudden. Great detective work 2old. |
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 20, 2019 17:55:55 GMT -5
Okay. My evil mind got to thinking about this Trump/Greenland fiasco. Why would Trump want to purchase Greenland? Natural resources? Maybe some of his cronies could profit, but how would that enrich him? Something is amiss. I asked, "Does Denmark... Denmark owns Greenland... have an extradition treaty with the U.S.?" They do. So, I pulled up that treaty and began to read. The extradition treaty between Denmark and the U.S. was signed by President Nixon in 1972. The following is one of the exceptions given where extradition would NOT be granted. 4. If the offense for which his extradition is requested is a political offense or an offense
connected with a political offense, or if the requested State has reason to assume that the
requisition for his surrender has, in fact, been made with a view to try or punish him for a
political offense or an offense connected with a political offense. If any question arises as to
whether a case comes within the provisions of this subparagraph, it shall be decided by the
authorities of the requested State. This is similar to the Iceland/Denmark extradition treaty. ARTICLE VI
A fugitive criminal shall not be surrendered if the offense in respect of which his surrender is
demanded be of a political character, or if he proves that the requisition for his surrender has,
in fact, been made with a view to try or punish him for an offense of a political character.
No person surrendered by either of the high contracting parties to the other shall be triable or
tried, or be punished for any political crime or offense, or for any act connected therewith,
committed previously to his extradition. If Denmark was willing to sell Greenland to the U.S. and Trump sought asylum there the U.S. could purchase that island and bring him back for trial/prison. His "fishing expedition" has found that Denmark will NOT sell Greenland. Hence, if he could purchase property there... he could build there... live there... and not fear extradition to the U.S. Now, the natural resources of Greenland come into play. Trump is smart/crooked/corrupt enough to get his hand on those resources... especially if he is living there. I wish the FBI or intelligence agencies were keeping an eye on Trump's money. If he begins to move money from the U.S. to foreign banks... look out! If he, through a shell corporation, begins purchasing land in Greenland... look out! If he ends up losing the 2020 election and the Democrats can turn the Senate, Trump won't have a waking moment he isn't being questioned, indicted, or tried for his actions while POTUS. He knows this! Why not have a plan in the works where he could hop on his private plane and, within hours, be unavailable for any potential consequences pertinent to his time in office? Surely, that conspiracy theory can't be any more unbelievable than some of the Clinton murder theories..... "Why would Trump want to purchase Greenland? Natural resources?" Yes, that is one. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/19/why-does-donald-trump-want-to-buy-greenlandGreenland harbours some of the largest deposits of rare-earth metals, including neodymium, praseodymium, dysprosium and terbium, along with uranium and the byproducts of zinc. US corporations once thought of China as a benign supplier of rare-earth metals for mobile phones, computers and more recently electric cars. And the US government was relaxed when Chinese companies began hoovering up mines across central and southern Africa to secure an even greater dominance of the global market. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Could it happen? I do not think so. FWIW In 1945 President Truman also wanted to buy Greenland. |
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Post by Warrigal on Aug 20, 2019 23:23:36 GMT -5
I'm wondering how Canada feels about being hemmed in on three sides by the United States?
Perhaps they will put in a counter bid.
If it's an island he wants to buy we have a few he might consider - Macquarie Island, Christmas Island and Tasmania. The first is uninhabited so vacant possession unless you count the penguins.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 3:36:34 GMT -5
He’s a madman, all right.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Aug 21, 2019 4:10:26 GMT -5
Prime minister of Denmark say it absurd..... now Trump say okay I am not coming to Denmark!! Ha!  This like little child who pout ha! He is pathetic
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Post by 2old on Aug 21, 2019 5:32:39 GMT -5
I'm wondering how Canada feels about being hemmed in on three sides by the United States? Perhaps they will put in a counter bid. If it's an island he wants to buy we have a few he might consider - Macquarie Island, Christmas Island and Tasmania. The first is uninhabited so vacant possession unless you count the penguins. If I were to suggest him living on an island, how about Riker's Island? It's fairly close to Trump Tower.  |
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Post by Warrigal on Aug 21, 2019 6:42:07 GMT -5
 I like it!
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Post by highlandannie on Aug 21, 2019 6:51:23 GMT -5
Sen Chris Murphy tweeted this today:
Little known fact: the current CNN breaking news headline “President Trump Postpones Denmark Trip After Prime Minster Refuses to Sell Greenland to United States”, was, word for word, in a 1995 episode of The Simpsons.
I've been searching to find out if this is true. I know the Simpsons showed Trump as president in an episode in 2000 and then had Lisa Simpson as the next president trying to clean up the financial disaster Trump had left behind.
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Post by nkat on Aug 21, 2019 8:20:38 GMT -5
What would he buy Greenland with? Trump Bucks? We could not afford Greenland with our national debt.
Nkat
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Post by Kady on Aug 21, 2019 8:59:41 GMT -5
What would he buy Greenland with? Trump Bucks? We could not afford Greenland with our national debt. Nkat Mexico will pay for it......  |
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Post by helen on Aug 21, 2019 11:25:06 GMT -5
Sure. And about the bill for that wall - check's in the mail.
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Post by 2old on Aug 21, 2019 11:48:24 GMT -5
Sen Chris Murphy tweeted this today: Little known fact: the current CNN breaking news headline “President Trump Postpones Denmark Trip After Prime Minster Refuses to Sell Greenland to United States”, was, word for word, in a 1995 episode of The Simpsons.I've been searching to find out if this is true. I know the Simpsons showed Trump as president in an episode in 2000 and then had Lisa Simpson as the next president trying to clean up the financial disaster Trump had left behind. Listening to his press conference on the lawn. When asked about the Denmark fiasco, he says he cancelled the trip because their Prime Minister of Denmark called his idea "absurd". Invoking President Obama, he said when the Philippines refused to allow him to land his plane ... that was Obama's fault and the Philippines had every right to do that. OTOH, Trump says the Prime Minister's using the word "absurd" was not meant toward him but toward the American people. What a bunch of hooey!!! Also... if you didn't know... Trump had to reiterate numerous times that his economy is the strongest in the world, that he has done more for Israel than any other President in American history, that he has a plan for a background check that will satisfy gun owners and the NRA. I am so pleased we are blessed to be in the presence of greatness!! |
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Post by highlandannie on Aug 21, 2019 12:02:06 GMT -5
Sen Chris Murphy tweeted this today: Little known fact: the current CNN breaking news headline “President Trump Postpones Denmark Trip After Prime Minster Refuses to Sell Greenland to United States”, was, word for word, in a 1995 episode of The Simpsons.I've been searching to find out if this is true. I know the Simpsons showed Trump as president in an episode in 2000 and then had Lisa Simpson as the next president trying to clean up the financial disaster Trump had left behind. Listening to his press conference on the lawn. When asked about the Denmark fiasco, he says he cancelled the trip because their Prime Minister of Denmark called his idea "absurd". Invoking President Obama, he said when the Philippines refused to allow him to land his plane ... that was Obama's fault and the Philippines had every right to do that. OTOH, Trump says the Prime Minister's using the word "absurd" was not meant toward him but toward the American people. What a bunch of hooey!!! Also... if you didn't know... Trump had to reiterate numerous times that his economy is the strongest in the world, that he has done more for Israel than any other President in American history, that he has a plan for a background check that will satisfy gun owners and the NRA. I am so pleased we are blessed to be in the presence of greatness!! And he has to yell over the chopper noise. He thinks it makes him look important to have a chopper supposedly waiting for him. How many times did he mention Obama? He is sooooooooo jealous of him and the admiration and love he still receives from Americans. And Obama has about 50 million more Twitter followers. Funny how he couldn't even say absurd properly! So that one word is the reason he cancelled. Thin skin. LOL. Yesterday we had the strongest dollar in the history of our country. BS. And blah blah blah blah.....lies lies lies lies. |
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This like little child who pout ha! He is pathetic 
I like it!
