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Post by joymarty on Aug 15, 2019 18:05:39 GMT -5
Homeopathy is used all over most of the world and the least in the U.S. I've had good results with other remedies and so glad I found this HGH homeopathic...no science, homeopathy has been around for 100's of years. One info link and there are many others: www.hri-research.org/resources/essentialevidence/use-of-homeopathy-across-the-world/Now those who feel tip top and no health issues, don't even bother and the younger one is the less to even think about HGH replacement, as I see it. As I believe I said above, my daughter who is 56 soon, has been through a lot of drug damage, mostly from legal pharma drugs, and she's paid dearly and the product we're using is turning things around for her.
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Post by joymarty on Aug 15, 2019 23:32:31 GMT -5
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Post by Drifter on Aug 16, 2019 8:02:43 GMT -5
From your link:
Pretty much says it all!
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Post by rebecca2013 on Aug 16, 2019 9:18:09 GMT -5
Guess it is kind of like the placebo effect..... which cannot be attributed to the substance itself, and must therefore must be due to the patient's belief in that treatment. To each their own, eh?! amen!
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Post by joymarty on Aug 16, 2019 12:26:13 GMT -5
And we must not forget to take all the pharma drugs AT OUR OWN RISK.
My turningpoint was a trip to the ER due to a strong side effect from a pharma drug. THis was back in the 80's and changed my MIND majorally about all the toxic drugs we are given by the medical world.
And you'll find plenty of info on drug interactions and deaths.
Like cures Like is what homeopathy is all about.
Oh my daughter was in ICU due to pharma drugs given her by a drug pusher MD in our town..she found out about it after she healed and turned her thinking around TOTALLY.
So many trust the docs and their legal drugs...grrrrrrrrrrrr
I use a few pharma meds, many herbals and some homeopathics for my good health. So far all is good at 81.
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Post by louie on Aug 16, 2019 13:49:39 GMT -5
I don't know your husband's age, but the "gel" could give him a nice shift in his overall mood/depression issues. It does for everyone who is using it. Do a search of HGH depletion and depression. We've been going with everything 'in the book' and everything 'outside of the book' for his depression. When you include many of his medical issues and many of his other issues from Agent Orange exposure, we have to be careful. I don't mind exploring other avenues of treatment. But he is not a candidate, not really. HGH promotes growth of cell tissues in the human body. Since he also had Stage IV cancer this sort of treatment is not advised. At this time with all of his issues, it is strongly suggested not to try other treatments and that probably sounds pretty bogus to some folks, but I do know that his list of medical problems run to nearly a full page. There is not just one issue. I would love for him to feel better.
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Post by formerlyme on Aug 16, 2019 14:01:20 GMT -5
You are wise, louie, to tread very carefully re giving your husband random homeopathic and other medically unapproved treatments. A lot of them are bogus, anyway. Like your hubby, I have a complicated group of serious conditions, and wouldn't touch HGH or other similar products. Nobody knows how they could negatively interact with properly prescribed medications he is on.
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Post by joymarty on Aug 16, 2019 14:14:20 GMT -5
louie, I hear you, and when a person takes so many drugs, the depression could be coming from them also.
Have you considered a naturopath? They try to get to the root of the issues, allopathic medicine just pushes the bandaids.
I take a lot of supplements and hardly any drugs, woke up back in the 80's with a trip to the ER from a drug I was taking. I got to work to heal myself more naturally and here I am at 81 and doing pretty good...
A 10 yr clinical depression was a sluggish thyroid the allopathic doctors missed for those yrs. All they did was hand out A/D drugs and I was not better, it was thyroid. So many docs miss the thyroid depression connection. There are 66 some symptoms of sluggish thyroid and high up there is depression. I've lost a lot and I mean a lot of faith in allopathy.
A D.O. I was seeing for many years called in for thyroid med and in 4 days the depression lifted...and all those docs and their numbers....grrrrrr we are NOT numbers...we are symptoms. The D.O. didn't even do labs, he knew, this old time doc knew SYMPTOMS...todays modern docs live by numbers. SAD....
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Post by joymarty on Aug 16, 2019 14:41:53 GMT -5
I'm so fortunate to live in a state that has a LOAD of alternative type MD's and I started seeing them after the ER trip in the 80's,,,and many of us pay out of pocket for help that the mainstream insurance docs can't do. My first integrative MD tested me for issues I would have never known about from allopathic MD's and I was in my early 60's.
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Post by louie on Aug 17, 2019 9:45:31 GMT -5
louie, I hear you, and when a person takes so many drugs, the depression could be coming from them also. Have you considered a naturopath? They try to get to the root of the issues, allopathic medicine just pushes the bandaids. I take a lot of supplements and hardly any drugs, woke up back in the 80's with a trip to the ER from a drug I was taking. I got to work to heal myself more naturally and here I am at 81 and doing pretty good... A 10 yr clinical depression was a sluggish thyroid the allopathic doctors missed for those yrs. All they did was hand out A/D drugs and I was not better, it was thyroid. So many docs miss the thyroid depression connection. There are 66 some symptoms of sluggish thyroid and high up there is depression. I've lost a lot and I mean a lot of faith in allopathy. A D.O. I was seeing for many years called in for thyroid med and in 4 days the depression lifted...and all those docs and their numbers....grrrrrr we are NOT numbers...we are symptoms. The D.O. didn't even do labs, he knew, this old time doc knew SYMPTOMS...todays modern docs live by numbers. SAD.... The MDD has been an issue since Vietnam so we are talking quite a few years here. Well since 1971. Thyroid function was not an issue until after 6 weeks of radiation every day and chemo. That has been addressed. Mental health and depression is not that well understood and after his CVA or stroke which required surgery, most symptoms and others got better and then worse as the brain retrained itself. Actually his psychiatrist has been more helpful and has reduced many meds. As I said, he has a very long list of medical issues. He did go off all meds one time and decided he needed none of it. After taking him to the ER in the middle of the night, I didn't see him for nearly 2 weeks while the doctors dealt with it. So no, I won't be seeking other natural methods at this time. It isn't for him. I myself don't take a darned thing. I work out at CrossFit, I ride a bike, hike, and work the farm daily. My health is good even with my arthritis which I found eases as long as I use my body.
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Post by louie on Aug 17, 2019 9:52:04 GMT -5
You are wise, louie , to tread very carefully re giving your husband random homeopathic and other medically unapproved treatments. A lot of them are bogus, anyway. Like your hubby, I have a complicated group of serious conditions, and wouldn't touch HGH or other similar products. Nobody knows how they could negatively interact with properly prescribed medications he is on. Thanks. With his long list of medical issues really trying to fix something with herbs or homeopathic treatments is not a place I want to go into. As I said his diagnosis codes run nearly a full page for his history. The doctors who are doing a 'day' surgery on his knee were very concerned and moved the surgery to another hospital that has a trauma center...in case. Even the safest of meds with him have to be monitored as he can have severe reactions. We hope for quality of life for his remaining time. Day to day without extreme pain and try to stave off the next round of depression. I am lucky in that I have no medical problems other than arthritis in my hands, wrists, and feet. So far my working out has really helped with it. Yes I get pain, but it usually subsides after a few hours. I am very lucky.
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Post by joymarty on Aug 17, 2019 12:17:00 GMT -5
louie, all is good. You folks are doing what is right in your lives and I am in mine. I deal with bodywide OA and the HGH dosing gel I'm using is reversing the damage done to my knee from hip replacement. It's all connected, surgery can be deadly and cause more misery, it did for me. Best wishes for best outcomes.
And I started on my alternative healing path over 25 yrs ago. I had damage from a drug that put me in the ER and that was the beginning of the end.
The majority of Americans trust their docs and the drugs, but it's changing, slowly but change is being made.
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Post by joymarty on Aug 18, 2019 12:38:57 GMT -5
The more I read and research growth hormone loss, the more I find so many health issues and aging due to this loss: MS, Pain, Arthritis, Sleep Issues, Dementia/Alzheimers, Diabetes, Heart/Afib issues, and these are just a few I've researched.
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Post by good4nothin on Aug 19, 2019 7:40:55 GMT -5
The more I read and research growth hormone loss, the more I find so many health issues and aging due to this loss: MS, Pain, Arthritis, Sleep Issues, Dementia/Alzheimers, Diabetes, Heart/Afib issues, and these are just a few I've researched. Then how come people seldom get those diseases in non-industrial societies? If it resulted from a natural loss in HGH, then those diseases would have occurred in all times and places. They do not. And that is NOT because people never get old in non-industrial societies! That is a myth.
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Post by joymarty on Aug 19, 2019 13:18:01 GMT -5
We don't know the rest of the world and their aging journeys. And what diseases they have and don't have. Everyone loses "born with growth hormone"...
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