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Post by keith on May 10, 2019 9:04:34 GMT -5
DUMP TRUMP !!! Let's get Trump out before the elections. Vote for Bill Weld in the primaries. Any Dem. will do and Weld is a decent man as opposed to scumbag. Weld wouldn't get elected anyway...we'd all suddenly come to our senses just before the general elections. I'm quite serious.
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Post by rebecca2013 on May 10, 2019 10:39:14 GMT -5
That would be great....except....the idiot Base just go gaga for Trump.... no matter how bad Trump is or what he does... they adore him.......
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Post by suds00 on May 10, 2019 11:42:58 GMT -5
i support weld for republican nominee.it's going to to be tough for him to beat trump.
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Post by Drifter on May 10, 2019 13:58:35 GMT -5
You couldn't pay me to vote for any Republican.
My personal attorney switched from an Independent to a Republican to run for District Attorney this year. Won't be voting for him now.
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Post by suds00 on May 10, 2019 14:18:48 GMT -5
i'll vote for weld in primary.if he wins and it's between him and biden;i don't know
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Post by keith on May 11, 2019 9:49:01 GMT -5
We have the numbers...if the minorities vote.
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Post by notbob on May 11, 2019 13:08:25 GMT -5
You couldn't pay me to vote for any Republican. My personal attorney switched from an Independent to a Republican to run for District Attorney this year. Won't be voting for him now. A couple of years ago, a friend of my ran for DA and won. She is very liberal, though few people know that. She felt forced to run as a Republican because she could gain more support all the way around including voters in our largely conservative area. The Democratic party is very weak here. Had I not already been aware of her politics, I wouldn't have voted for her because she had that (R) next to her name. She would've won without my vote but I'm glad she ran and I'm glad she was elected. She ran against a Democrat who was incompetent. The R or D labelings don't mean much in low level elections. Her personal political leanings haven't changed. She's now in office and very few people care or could tell you what label she ran under.
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Post by keith on May 11, 2019 13:23:05 GMT -5
You couldn't pay me to vote for any Republican. My personal attorney switched from an Independent to a Republican to run for District Attorney this year. Won't be voting for him now. A couple of years ago, a friend of my ran for DA and won. She is very liberal, though few people know that. She felt forced to run as a Republican because she could gain more support all the way around including voters in our largely conservative area. The Democratic party is very weak here. Had I not already been aware of her politics, I wouldn't have voted for her because she had that (R) next to her name. She would've won without my vote but I'm glad she ran and I'm glad she was elected. She ran against a Democrat who was incompetent. The R or D labelings don't mean much in low level elections. Her personal political leanings haven't changed. She's now in office and very few people care or could tell you what label she ran under. I'm a pragmatist, that is: I act according to the result. Jon Huntsman, our current ambassador to Russia, is a republican but I'd vote for him if he was running against a compromised and inferior democrat. He is smart, humane, and hates Trump. I believe in living within our means and fair taxation,...so does he. Eisenhower passed the first civil rights legislation...he was republican. I don't vote according to my jerking knee.
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Post by notbob on May 11, 2019 13:27:17 GMT -5
We have the numbers...if the minorities vote. keith, with all due respects, it's a pipe dream. While I like the sentiment, no one, Right or Left is going to pay much attention to Weld. I would bet, few people have a clue who he is now and I would expect his numbers won't be much different come the primaries. He is and will remain a mere blip on the radar and I doubt he'll garner enough financial support to get his name out there to become even slightly competitive against Trump. Democrats are going to be more concerned about supporting a candidate who best fits their beliefs which will range from the most liberal ideas to the most moderate. That will include voting for who they think can beat Trump. It's a great idea but in order to accomplish what you're suggesting, it would take a massive advertising campaign to make voters aware of Weld much less think about voting for him in the primaries. That kind of money simply won't be available from voters or sponsors and as we should all be well aware...it's all about the money.
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Post by notbob on May 11, 2019 13:31:26 GMT -5
A couple of years ago, a friend of my ran for DA and won. She is very liberal, though few people know that. She felt forced to run as a Republican because she could gain more support all the way around including voters in our largely conservative area. The Democratic party is very weak here. Had I not already been aware of her politics, I wouldn't have voted for her because she had that (R) next to her name. She would've won without my vote but I'm glad she ran and I'm glad she was elected. She ran against a Democrat who was incompetent. The R or D labelings don't mean much in low level elections. Her personal political leanings haven't changed. She's now in office and very few people care or could tell you what label she ran under. I'm a pragmatist, that is: I act according to the result. Jon Huntsman is a republican but I'd vote for him if it meant I'd defeat an inferior democrat. He is smart, humane, and hates Trump. I believe in living within our means...so does he. Eisenhower voted for the first civil rights legislation...he was republican. I don't vote according to my jerking knee. Eisenhower voted for civil rights because the Republican party was the civil rights party at the time. George Wallace and other bigoted southern politicians were Democrats. All that changed during the 60s and 70s. When it came to civil rights, the parties flipped roles.
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Post by Kady on May 11, 2019 15:10:42 GMT -5
I think these Republicans you all are speaking of are the exception....few and far between..... V E R Y far between....lol
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Post by keith on May 11, 2019 17:55:01 GMT -5
I'm aware of the anomalistic nature of good republicans and Bob, I was referring to electing a democrat "if the minorities vote". The Weld thing was more tongue in cheek than realistic. Jon Huntsman, our current ambassador to Russia, could beat Trump in a flash. He was governor of Utah with an 80% approval rating and ambassador to China under Obama. He speaks fluent Mandarin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman_Jr.
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Post by birdgal on May 11, 2019 18:54:15 GMT -5
I'm with Drifter on this. I'd never vote for a Republican! I can't even stand to look at them anymore.
Most of them look either angry, evil, wicked, deceitful, condescending, and full of El Torro Poo-poo.
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Post by keith on May 11, 2019 19:20:36 GMT -5
I'm with Drifter on this. I'd never vote for a Republican! I can't even stand to look at them anymore. Most of them look either angry, evil, wicked, deceitful, condescending, and full of El Torro Poo-poo. I don't blame you. With the possible exception of John Kasich, the current crop of potential candidates are exactly what you describe. My Huntsman characterization doesn't apply, he's not running...period. But, I don't think Obama would've appointed him if he reflected any of the traits you mentioned. I only suggested Bill Weld as an early means of defeating Trump and finally electing a democrat.
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Post by birdgal on May 11, 2019 20:35:58 GMT -5
I believe Eisenhower would recoil in horror at what passes for Republicans these days.
I did a report on President Eisenhower when I was in school. To say he was woven from the same cloth as the monster in the WH, Rudy, Mitch, or any of the rest of these thugs is, imho, blasphemy.
This isn't your father's Republican party. It's a party of rebels and Russians.
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