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Post by Kady on Nov 26, 2019 8:57:44 GMT -5
I've often thought of this....you just know the military leaders are worried about the colossal mess in the White House and as some leaks have come out that some military leaders have tried to manipulate around his ignorant orders. I guess we can only hope people in high places are working behind the scene to keep things as sane as possible.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Nov 26, 2019 9:15:04 GMT -5
From my humble understanding there are certain patriotic people out there who put country before buffoon Those people have the beating heart of our country in their hands, keeping us safe from megalomaniac who can not even spell Afghanistan..... Trump is a useless yet dangerous individual
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Post by keith on Dec 2, 2019 18:11:45 GMT -5
Assuming that the coup was executed with the express intent to hand control of the government back to the people- I would welcome such. Would the people accept it? Would federal troops willingly confront our own citizens with the threat of force? Is a coup likely? The people that would not accept the removal of Trump and his criminal associates would be his supporters. If they had thoughts of challenging the military, I think they would be in for a big disappointment. I think our democratic traditions extend to our military. Drastic times call for drastic measures. The thought of Trump bumbling around with the nuclear football chills my spine. i would hope our generals have the same sense as this Roman emperor: "Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present." Marcus Aurelius
Butterfly: "Drastic times...." Zold: Mattis and Kelly are typical military. They quit to show their revulsion for Trump. Their replacements will share these values...IMO.
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Post by keith on Dec 2, 2019 18:32:41 GMT -5
I've often thought of this....you just know the military leaders are worried about the colossal mess in the White House and as some leaks have come out that some military leaders have tried to manipulate around his ignorant orders. I guess we can only hope people in high places are working behind the scene to keep things as sane as possible. Before becoming the 20th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Mark A. Milley served as chief of staff of the Army. He has held multiple staff and command positions, including serving as the commanding general of the International Security Assistance Force Joint Command and deputy commanding general of U.S. Forces Afghanistan. A native of Massachusetts, Milley graduated from Princeton University in 1980, where he received his commission from Army ROTC. He has two master’s degrees: in international relations from Columbia University and in national security and strategic studies from the U.S. Naval War College.
I'll roll with this guy. Intellect vs moron....no brainer.
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Post by keith on Dec 2, 2019 18:45:34 GMT -5
From my humble understanding there are certain patriotic people out there who put country before buffoon Those people have the beating heart of our country in their hands, keeping us safe from megalomaniac who can not even spell Afghanistan..... Trump is a useless yet dangerous individual Yes, so dangerous he must be removed before the elections. He'll have over two months after losing to do whatever it takes to avoid prison....we can't permit that.
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Post by keith on Dec 7, 2019 23:50:48 GMT -5
Of all the possible scenarios for the next year, I consider this one among the likely ones:
What if, after losing next November, the entire Trump family boards that sleek Boeing 757 and they move to Moscow? Think Putin would refuse to have him/
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Post by notmydad on Dec 8, 2019 1:24:49 GMT -5
Think Putin would refuse to have him No.
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Post by 2old on Dec 8, 2019 7:34:03 GMT -5
Of all the possible scenarios for the next year, I consider this one among the likely ones:
What if, after losing next November, the entire Trump family boards that sleek Boeing 757 and they move to Moscow? Think Putin would refuse to have him/ If Trump loses in 2020, he will become even more of a danger to the security of our United States. He has no conscience about holding the safety of our country above his own ego. I doubt he would give a second thought to telling Putin, Kim, etc. each and every detail of our intelligence agencies and military complex if they passed along some vain compliment. He will be extremely vengeful of the U.S. for failing to install him as our Supreme Leader and revenge will be on his mind. The Democratic candidates are all talking about seeing charges filed against Trump once he leaves office. Sorry! That ain't good enough. The day after he loses the election, even before the new POTUS is installed, he will be a danger of opening discreet conversations with Putin. How else would he be able to wage a campaign to overturn an election he loses? Putin would hand him as much cyber-assistance and, potentially, military assistance as he needs to stay in power. Putin know Trump's shortcomings and that Russia can capitalize on those shortcomings. The problem of Putin/Trump will not wait for a new administration to indict Trump for financial dealings. The problem of Putin/Trump is one of treason and the speed those traitorous acts could happen between November 3 and when the new administration is inaugurated.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Dec 8, 2019 7:55:38 GMT -5
Of all the possible scenarios for the next year, I consider this one among the likely ones:
What if, after losing next November, the entire Trump family boards that sleek Boeing 757 and they move to Moscow? Think Putin would refuse to have him/ If Trump loses in 2020, he will become even more of a danger to the security of our United States. He has no conscience about holding the safety of our country above his own ego. I doubt he would give a second thought to telling Putin, Kim, etc. each and every detail of our intelligence agencies and military complex if they passed along some vain compliment. He will be extremely vengeful of the U.S. for failing to install him as our Supreme Leader and revenge will be on his mind. The Democratic candidates are all talking about seeing charges filed against Trump once he leaves office. Sorry! That ain't good enough. The day after he loses the election, even before the new POTUS is installed, he will be a danger of opening discreet conversations with Putin. How else would he be able to wage a campaign to overturn an election he loses? Putin would hand him as much cyber-assistance and, potentially, military assistance as he needs to stay in power. Putin know Trump's shortcomings and that Russia can capitalize on those shortcomings. The problem of Putin/Trump will not wait for a new administration to indict Trump for financial dealings. The problem of Putin/Trump is one of treason and the speed those traitorous acts could happen between November 3 and when the new administration is inaugurated. I believe he already sell out to Putin look at way he bow down to the former KGB colonel like the idiotic conspiracy theories that Ukraine has DNC server that it was them that meddled in election not Russia if Ukraine does no fly then perhaps he will blame Taiwan those sneaky Orientals as he would call my people being the racist that he is
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Post by keith on Dec 30, 2019 14:47:02 GMT -5
If Trump loses in 2020, he will become even more of a danger to the security of our United States. He has no conscience about holding the safety of our country above his own ego. I doubt he would give a second thought to telling Putin, Kim, etc. each and every detail of our intelligence agencies and military complex if they passed along some vain compliment. He will be extremely vengeful of the U.S. for failing to install him as our Supreme Leader and revenge will be on his mind. The Democratic candidates are all talking about seeing charges filed against Trump once he leaves office. Sorry! That ain't good enough. The day after he loses the election, even before the new POTUS is installed, he will be a danger of opening discreet conversations with Putin. How else would he be able to wage a campaign to overturn an election he loses? Putin would hand him as much cyber-assistance and, potentially, military assistance as he needs to stay in power. Putin know Trump's shortcomings and that Russia can capitalize on those shortcomings. The problem of Putin/Trump will not wait for a new administration to indict Trump for financial dealings. The problem of Putin/Trump is one of treason and the speed those traitorous acts could happen between November 3 and when the new administration is inaugurated. I believe he already sell out to Putin look at way he bow down to the former KGB colonel like the idiotic conspiracy theories that Ukraine has DNC server that it was them that meddled in election not Russia if Ukraine does no fly then perhaps he will blame Taiwan those sneaky Orientals as he would call my people being the racist that he is
I;ve been saying these things for awhile now. As I've suggested, our military, intelligence community, and free press should coordinate a coup and reschedule protected elections free of fraud, internal corruption, and external interference. As things stand, they are in great peril from all of the above.
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Post by suds00 on Dec 30, 2019 15:52:06 GMT -5
i hope that a coup is not needed but these are unusual times.i hate the idea.
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Post by keith on Dec 31, 2019 0:55:52 GMT -5
i hope that a coup is not needed but these are unusual times.i hate the idea. I too am repulsed and feel great trepidation regarding such drastic and inherently dangerous actions but Thomas Jefferson's words were burned into my mind as an idealistic youth;
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation….
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.****
I can't help but believe he was prescient. We have exponentially growing threats from without and within and the most dangerous one is running our country.Full Quote
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Post by keith on Jan 1, 2020 14:49:34 GMT -5
What if: Putin recognized, in Trump, an ally in his plan to exploit the greatest weakness of western democracies. That is; we try to go beyond instinctive tribal divisions and unite all peoples in pursuit of Jefferson's stated goals. Their are no minorities in Russia. They are not involved in the struggle to surpass our emotional response to the proverbial "Melting pot" of divergent cultures, ethnicity, and political beliefs. Our technology is leading us toward destruction at a terrifying pace while our social evolution crawls toward salvation. Putin, being intelligent and coldly rational, sees his ultimate wedge in our inability to adapt to a situation he will never confront. Trump and his supporters see this too.
What if: between he, Trump, and Boris Johnson....there was an attempt to unite all the predominantly white nations. There are elements within all these countries to whom this possibility is very appealing. Europe is fracturing under the strain of immigrant integration. Canada and Australia could also reach a hypothetical tipping point. What if he succeeded?
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Post by keith on Jan 3, 2020 13:10:51 GMT -5
What if....nothing mattered. Considering my conviction that our consciousness is fueled by a form of energy as yet undefined by science and distinguished by me as a medium used by inter dimensional entities moving between macrocosm and microcosm....why sweat my current reality....at all?
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Post by helen on Jan 3, 2020 14:17:19 GMT -5
Trying to follow you is making my head ache. Sorry, I'll try another day
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