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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 9:18:56 GMT -5
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45968315Never heard of this before. Very strange. But, remember, females cannot become priests. "She is one of 254 "brides of Christ" in the US, according to the United States Association of Consecrated Virgins (USACV) - whose day jobs range from nurses and psychologists to accountants, business women and fire fighters.
There are at least 4,000 consecrated virgins in the world, according to a 2015 survey, and the Vatican says there has been an upsurge of vocations "in very diverse geographic areas and cultural contexts".
Unlike nuns, consecrated virgins do not live in enclosed communities or wear special clothes; they lead a secular life, have jobs and support themselves."
There is no such male equivalent in the Catholic Church."
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Post by nkat on Dec 7, 2018 11:11:56 GMT -5
I thought the nuns were brides of Christ. They wear a wedding band.
I never heard of consecrated virgins.
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Post by birdgal on Dec 7, 2018 14:00:23 GMT -5
I've never heard of them either. What's the difference between these women and a nun? Both are supposed to be virgins and brides of Christ. Wait a minute! They're ALL brides of Christ? All nuns wear a wedding band? So he's a polygamist? Interesting and a little bit creepy.
Religion would be much easier and appealing without all these rules and regulations. It would also be nice if they went into a closet to pray and kept out of politics. Hey, a gal can dream, can't she?
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Post by birdgal on Dec 7, 2018 14:03:22 GMT -5
There is no such male equivalent in the Catholic Church." Perhaps there should be. Let them have real jobs and support themselves. This way all the money the church has can be spent on feeding and housing the poor instead of the priests. |
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Post by nkat on Dec 7, 2018 15:41:46 GMT -5
There is no such male equivalent in the Catholic Church." Perhaps there should be. Let them have real jobs and support themselves. This way all the money the church has can be spent on feeding and housing the poor instead of the priests. Sounds good for all religions! nkat |
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Post by birdgal on Dec 7, 2018 16:25:46 GMT -5
It sure does, Nkat! Imagine?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 17:37:53 GMT -5
Priests live "high on the hog" while nuns have to go out and get a job. The church does not support them anymore.
These "dedicated virgins" have careers. So why are they making such a big deal of their virginity? Why not just keep it to themselves? From the pictures in the article above, she is laying on the floor of the altar like priests do when they become ordained. I don't get it. Who cares that they are virgins? WTH!
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 13, 2018 20:43:17 GMT -5
I'm glad to be a Lutheran, their vision is only 500 years out of date. instead of 1600.
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Post by Warrigal on Dec 30, 2018 22:38:24 GMT -5
I'm glad to be a Lutheran, their vision is only 500 years out of date. instead of 1600.  and I am of the Uniting Church in Australia which was inaugurated in 1977. We're practically modern.
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 30, 2018 23:09:48 GMT -5
and I am of the Uniting Church in Australia which was inaugurated in 1977. We're practically modern. Interesting, I thought you were Lutheran. I'm not a church-goer but do care about the direction and impact that Christianity has on Humanity. The UCA looks to have a positive role in OZ, I wonder if such a unification could ever be possible in the U.S. |
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Post by Warrigal on Dec 31, 2018 4:15:49 GMT -5
There was a unification in Canada before we did it in Australia. They called themselves the United Church of Canada but in Australia the word Uniting was chosen to signify that the process is ongoing.
This is something that Americans may not understand fully but the Australian population is very unevenly distributed. Inland Australia has many tiny settlements that are incapable of supporting more than two churches - one catholic and one protestant. Some can't even manage that and rely on visiting clergy who arrive periodically by small plane or 4WD vehicle. They are known as outback patrols. Like Fr Mulcahy in MASH, they tend to minister to everybody, regardless of denomination. The UCA has had a very long history of outback mission stemming from the work of the Methodists and the Presbyterians. It was a Presbyterian minister who established the Flying Doctor Service using pedal radio for communication with isolated cattle stations. He also established bush nursing clinics in very small settlements to serve the less critical medical needs of the locals. Both of these entities have been taken over by secular or government since those early days.
Today there is talk of forming some kind of union with Anglicans (Episcopalians) to provide spiritual services in small towns. The difficulty is the very different structures of each denomination. Anglicanism is very hierarchical in its organisation while the UCA has a structure of interlocking councils at local, state and national levels. Each council is 50:50 clergy and laity and women are present in both categories.
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Post by butterfly on Jan 3, 2019 1:18:45 GMT -5
I find the idea of "consecrated virgins" (which I've not heard of before this) kind of creepy, too. I do not understand why celibacy is so prized by the Catholic church -- I mean didn't God tell people to go forth and multiply? And yet, if people follow that, they are not qualified to be a priest, or "consecrated."
I don't mean to cast any aspersions on Catholics -- I just truly don't get it. What is it about virginity that the lack of it makes one unqualified to serve God in a formal capacity?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 9:19:59 GMT -5
Good point. The Catholic Church, in my opinion, is really messed up. I was raised Catholic and managed to escape from it, so I have no love for that religion.
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and I am of the Uniting Church in Australia which was inaugurated in 1977. 
