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Post by birdgal on Oct 9, 2018 15:19:30 GMT -5
"“St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of heavenly hosts, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan, and all evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.”
Yeah. That outta do it. Sigh. The wickedness and snares are human male sexual predators like the priest in the church. Instead of making a big whop of asking an angel or a ghost to protect innocents from these wicked people why don't YOU do it! You're in charge here on Earth. You rebuke them! You call them out! You punish them and make them pay for their crimes!
And btw, instead of telling your God to thrust all the evil people prowling the world ruining the lives of innocent people into a place called hell that doesn't even exist, how about YOU throwing them all in jail instead? That way they can no longer ruin souls or lives.
Take charge Padre! Stop placing blame on invisible beings and do your job! I humbly pray. bow-down
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Post by birdgal on Oct 9, 2018 15:35:50 GMT -5
St. Solange is the patron Saint of rape victims. Because she refused to be raped and lost her life instead? The fact that the church even has a patron saint of rape victims more than troubles me. I'm baffled. Oh, you were sexually assaulted? What do want us to do? Here's the name of a saint. Talk to her. We're kind of busy right now talking to other saints. Peace be unto you. Obviously I need a nap. Or chocolate.
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Post by nkat on Oct 9, 2018 17:54:28 GMT -5
Maybe others have a better explanation of evil. ???? All the examples you gave work for me, RubyK. lol. NKat's question, "what makes people evil?" sounds as if she believes all people are naturally good and something comes along and turns them into evil people. I don't buy it. As I said, I believe there are good people and evil people in the world. We deceive ourselves when we say all people are good. Evil people know they're evil they just don't care. Especially when they're in a place of power and perhaps honor, like the church or the government. The newest scum bag to sit on the Court knows what he did was wrong he simply doesn't care. Therefore he's, imo, an evil man. So now there's two evil men sitting there. The Court is a joke just like the rest of the country. America is no longer a beacon of Light. She's a sewer of sludge and grime. Not good but evil. The same goes for the pope. Evil. This guy is the most powerful man in the Catholic church and the only solution he comes up with is to pray? No action? At all? Hell, I'll pray too and I'll bet I'll get the same answer. Silence! So you are saying people are born evil? I personally have no idea why some people are good and others are nasty. i just looked up the saints and listed one for rape victims, I am no expert on saints. what would you like the Pope to do? He has defrocked priests. Does the Vatican even have a prison? The Vatican is its own little country, right? nkat
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Post by birdgal on Oct 9, 2018 19:22:56 GMT -5
Nkat, I want him to do something other than pray! Report them to the authorities? Anything besides sending them to another church. Of course if the Vatican has their own personal country and authority that would be a waste of time. Just like the waste of time and money America just spent on our very own sham.
I don't know if the Vatican has a prison. Probably not. Why would they? It's convenient that they are their own country. I don't know how it works. If a priest lives in NY and rapes a boy or a girl in NY can he get away with it because he's from another country called the Vatican? I have no idea.
All I know is I am disgusted with evil men attacking women and children and being praised and adored by foolish people, especially women, while the children and women who are the victims of their attacks are mocked and not believed. Liberty and justice for all? What a crock! Not much liberty if you can't go to a party or a church without being attacked, and not much justice if you tell someone about it and they pretend not to believe you.
While a drunken slime now sits on the highest court of the land his victim will never, ever forget her attack. She's still getting death threats and had to move out of her home. She will never forget. Anyone who has been sexually assaulted does not forget. I'm sure the scum that attacked me when I was 13 has had a wonderful life. At 73 I remember that day as if it were yesterday. Trauma stays with the victim forever. While it was another day in the life of the attacker. He probably forgot before he got home.
I guess what I'm saying is I want restitution. Payback for their crimes. A little more than a seat on the Court or being defrocked.
And, yes. I do believe some people are born evil just like some are born not evil. However, I also believe both evil and good people know right from wrong. It's called our conscience. That quiet little voice that tells us this is wrong but we do it anyway.
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Post by nkat on Oct 9, 2018 19:52:26 GMT -5
BG excellent answer, I do agree with you!
Nkat
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Post by birdgal on Oct 10, 2018 9:09:06 GMT -5
Thank you, NKat! His response to a horrible situation involving criminal acts to innocent women and children, even those of his own flock, was meaningless and heartless. He might as well have said, "My thoughts and prayers are with you and I hope you have a nice day." Not good enough!!
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Post by birdgal on Oct 13, 2018 19:33:52 GMT -5
This has been around for a while but it's an excellent example of the difference between clanging noisy cymbals and doing something...
I was hungry …
And you formed humanities groups to discuss my hunger.
I was imprisoned … And you crept off quietly to your church and prayed for my release.
I was naked … And in your mind you debated the morality of my appearance.
I was sick … And you knelt and thanked God for your health.
I was homeless … And you preached to me of the spiritual shelter of the love of God.
I was lonely … And you left me alone to pray for me.
You seem so holy, so close to God … But I am still hungry … and lonely … and cold …
~ author unknown ~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 15:35:44 GMT -5
I've always liked that song. Thanks for posting it.
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Post by formerlyme on Oct 15, 2018 16:10:45 GMT -5
Ruby I am not even a practicing Catholic but the beliefs are ingrained in me. I do believe that Satan is real, I have seen enough horror movies to back that up!
Nkat
I assume (or hope) that you are being facetious!
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Post by nkat on Oct 15, 2018 17:37:46 GMT -5
Ruby I am not even a practicing Catholic but the beliefs are ingrained in me. I do believe that Satan is real, I have seen enough horror movies to back that up!
Nkat
I assume (or hope) that you are being facetious!
I was! nkat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 14:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by birdgal on Oct 23, 2018 14:21:59 GMT -5
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, I love this kind of stuff. So, we humans have to humbly ask an all powerful, all knowing, Creator of all Life (including the Devil), or one of his Saints, to please rid the world of the Devil that the Creator Himself created. So, exactly how powerful is this God if He needs us to ask Him to do this? One would think he could do this all on his own. The only evil things prowling around the world destroying souls and lives are twisted and evil human beings who are so full of themselves, and brainwashed by superstitions they call religion, they actually believe they were created in the image and likeness of a god. It's not the Devil. It's human beings doing all manner of evil things. Stop using an invisible entity as a scapegoat for all the wickedness and horrible things humans are doing to destroy the world and all the Beings that live here! It's not evil spirits. It's evil humans doing the prowling and destroying. Stop praying and start DOING SOMETHING to fix our selves! It's up to us and only us. It's that simple! The problem with the Catholic church is the people of the Catholic church. The Devil didn't make them do it. They did it all by themselves.
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