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Post by Warrigal on Aug 3, 2018 1:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by nkat on Aug 3, 2018 10:12:40 GMT -5
They have a major problem on their hands. Too bad they could not put out alerts for these parents to gather at a certain point to obtain their children. I guess many countries are involved.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 3, 2018 11:45:29 GMT -5
The magnitude of this all is only beginning to become evident. Imagine the difficulty in locating foreign nationals that were turned away at gunpoint, while their
children were forcibly taken from them. Sometimes giving a moments thought to taking actions that affect thousands of lives would be a solid PLUS.
It's apparent that immigrant lives don't matter to this POTUS.
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Post by nkat on Aug 3, 2018 12:16:47 GMT -5
Why did they not have a way to match the children with the parents to send them all back at one time! Hospital bands with names on them matching their children would of worked.
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Post by helen on Aug 3, 2018 13:22:57 GMT -5
Failure to Plan Ahead Syndrome is a common problem among today's Republicans.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Aug 3, 2018 19:45:27 GMT -5
The Trump Administration really caught off guard... they no think Americans would care about these people after all his rants about how they drug dealers criminals and the like... They had NO intention of reunification. When backlash happen, they scrambled but like old time comedies like Keystone Cops running and bumbling around...... they were completely inept at their very best and near criminal at worse. This Administration has been joke since started. Notice how even people in positions like HHS and Homeland Security seem clueless?
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 5, 2018 17:45:19 GMT -5
The magnitude of this all is only beginning to become evident. Imagine the difficulty in locating foreign nationals that were turned away at gunpoint, while their children were forcibly taken from them. Sometimes giving a moments thought to taking actions that affect thousands of lives would be a solid PLUS. It's apparent that immigrant lives don't matter to this POTUS. Yes,there have been problems for years with what you are crying about. You should remember that ICE is doing what they must do...enforce our laws. Taking children away from their parents is never a good think but in some cases it must be done....taken children from their parents happens every day with legal residents that break our laws...I think you must know that and why. Do you care? i do. I feel for the children if their parents are legal or illegal it is sad. FYI...There are legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. There is a right way to come into the US. FYI....Trump issued a executive order ending children being taken away from their parents. Donald Trump's executive order ending his administration's separation ... www.politifact.com/.../donald-trumps-executive-order-ending-his-administr/Jun 25, 2018 - After falsely claiming that immigrant families were being separated at the ... Trump signed an executive order to keep children and parents together in ... The June 20 executive order came after growing criticism of Trump's ... Parents were referred for prosecution and taken into federal custody; I am no fan of Trump but I do have the ability to be fair...that is a good thing.
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Post by formerlyme on Aug 5, 2018 17:55:17 GMT -5
So far as I am concerned, the Republicans under Trump's instructions basically kidnapped all these children, held them hostage and traumatized them in prison-like surroundings, and shipped the parents off to another country with no viable plan or intention to reunite them. This is a crime, and should be treated as such. Trump, The Kidnapper!!!
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Aug 5, 2018 18:10:20 GMT -5
The magnitude of this all is only beginning to become evident. Imagine the difficulty in locating foreign nationals that were turned away at gunpoint, while their children were forcibly taken from them. Sometimes giving a moments thought to taking actions that affect thousands of lives would be a solid PLUS. It's apparent that immigrant lives don't matter to this POTUS. Yes,there have been problems for years with what you are crying about. You should remember that ICE is doing what they must do...enforce our laws. Taking children away from their parents is never a good think but in some cases it must be done....taken children from their parents happens every day with legal residents that break our laws...I think you must know that and why. Do you care? i do. I feel for the children if their parents are legal or illegal it is sad. FYI...There are legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. There is a right way to come into the US. FYI....Trump issued a executive order ending children being taken away from their parents. Donald Trump's executive order ending his administration's separation ... www.politifact.com/.../donald-trumps-executive-order-ending-his-administr/Jun 25, 2018 - After falsely claiming that immigrant families were being separated at the ... Trump signed an executive order to keep children and parents together in ... The June 20 executive order came after growing criticism of Trump's ... Parents were referred for prosecution and taken into federal custody; I am no fan of Trump but I do have the ability to be fair...that is a good thing. Yes he sign executive order AFTER he started process earlier... only reason he sign was people were near a revolt from both sides
Yes... there is right way to come to America but in the mix of people who were separated, many were seeking asylum so the Administration's noise about all this was no totally true. I am immigrant.... I KNOW first hand how hard it is.... how long it takes... and I had much more scrutiny because of relationship with Rebecca and her work for government.... so I know exactly how difficult it is...... and to just brush it off and say these people are criminals and thieves and rapists and drug dealers?? how maddening...
ICE overstepped original charter. I don't agree they should continue like they are. If they overhaul ICE then maybe I agree but no I no support what they do now. You claim no fan of Trump so I will say that good thing but... don't always believe what the Administration says... they talk from both sides of mouth at same time... The only reason we debating now is that this was horrific policy thought up by Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump.... Three very disturbed individuals.....
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Aug 5, 2018 18:10:57 GMT -5
So far as I am concerned, the Republicans under Trump's instructions basically kidnapped all these children, held them hostage and traumatized them in prison-like surroundings, and shipped the parents off to another country with no viable plan or intention to reunite them. This is a crime, and should be treated as such. Trump, The Kidnapper!!!
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Post by nkat on Aug 5, 2018 18:26:18 GMT -5
Why would our country want to keep these kids here? Do they want to supply children to childless families here? This all makes no sense to me!
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 5, 2018 18:43:41 GMT -5
Yes,there have been problems for years with what you are crying about. You should remember that ICE is doing what they must do...enforce our laws. Taking children away from their parents is never a good think but in some cases it must be done....taken children from their parents happens every day with legal residents that break our laws...I think you must know that and why. Do you care? i do. I feel for the children if their parents are legal or illegal it is sad. FYI...There are legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. There is a right way to come into the US. FYI....Trump issued a executive order ending children being taken away from their parents. Donald Trump's executive order ending his administration's separation ... www.politifact.com/.../donald-trumps-executive-order-ending-his-administr/Jun 25, 2018 - After falsely claiming that immigrant families were being separated at the ... Trump signed an executive order to keep children and parents together in ... The June 20 executive order came after growing criticism of Trump's ... Parents were referred for prosecution and taken into federal custody; I am no fan of Trump but I do have the ability to be fair...that is a good thing. Yes he sign executive order AFTER he started process earlier... only reason he sign was people were near a revolt from both sides
Yes... there is right way to come to America but in the mix of people who were separated, many were seeking asylum so the Administration's noise about all this was no totally true. I am immigrant.... I KNOW first hand how hard it is.... how long it takes... and I had much more scrutiny because of relationship with Rebecca and her work for government.... so I know exactly how difficult it is...... and to just brush it off and say these people are criminals and thieves and rapists and drug dealers?? how maddening...
ICE overstepped original charter. I don't agree they should continue like they are. If they overhaul ICE then maybe I agree but no I no support what they do now. You claim no fan of Trump so I will say that good thing but... don't always believe what the Administration says... they talk from both sides of mouth at same time... The only reason we debating now is that this was horrific policy thought up by Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump.... Three very disturbed individuals....."and to just brush it off and say these people are criminals and thieves and rapists and drug dealers?? how maddening...' Some they are.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Aug 5, 2018 19:27:31 GMT -5
Yes he sign executive order AFTER he started process earlier... only reason he sign was people were near a revolt from both sides
Yes... there is right way to come to America but in the mix of people who were separated, many were seeking asylum so the Administration's noise about all this was no totally true. I am immigrant.... I KNOW first hand how hard it is.... how long it takes... and I had much more scrutiny because of relationship with Rebecca and her work for government.... so I know exactly how difficult it is...... and to just brush it off and say these people are criminals and thieves and rapists and drug dealers?? how maddening...
ICE overstepped original charter. I don't agree they should continue like they are. If they overhaul ICE then maybe I agree but no I no support what they do now. You claim no fan of Trump so I will say that good thing but... don't always believe what the Administration says... they talk from both sides of mouth at same time... The only reason we debating now is that this was horrific policy thought up by Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump.... Three very disturbed individuals..... "and to just brush it off and say these people are criminals and thieves and rapists and drug dealers?? how maddening...' Some they are. Some Republicans are criminals too as well as Democrats and Independents .... and some Rotary International members are also criminals.... regular church attendees..... and yes even some members of my own profession commit medicaid and medicare fraud....
so to lump all as Trump do.... all of them MS13? is absolutely playing to the fears of his misinformed and racially biased base.... The fact is that yes not everyone come here to commit crime.... the vast majority don't... Crime-free?? no.... but not this nonsense with women and their children..... that is.... just another in the thousands of lies this president has told.....
and just take Texas for example.... on border with Mexico......
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Post by The Inspector on Aug 5, 2018 21:23:40 GMT -5
So far as I am concerned, the Republicans under Trump's instructions basically kidnapped all these children, held them hostage and traumatized them in prison-like surroundings, and shipped the parents off to another country with no viable plan or intention to reunite them. This is a crime, and should be treated as such. Trump, The Kidnapper!!! Even people in jail can see their Kids!!!! There are small crimes and major ones, crossing the US border is a very minor crime. It's like take someones kids away because they stole a can of beans to feed them.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 5, 2018 22:22:41 GMT -5
The magnitude of this all is only beginning to become evident. Imagine the difficulty in locating foreign nationals that were turned away at gunpoint, while their children were forcibly taken from them. Sometimes giving a moments thought to taking actions that affect thousands of lives would be a solid PLUS. It's apparent that immigrant lives don't matter to this POTUS. Yes,there have been problems for years with what you are crying about. You should remember that ICE is doing what they must do...enforce our laws. Taking children away from their parents is never a good think but in some cases it must be done....taken children from their parents happens every day with legal residents that break our laws...I think you must know that and why. Do you care? i do. I feel for the children if their parents are legal or illegal it is sad. FYI...There are legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. There is a right way to come into the US. FYI....Trump issued a executive order ending children being taken away from their parents. Donald Trump's executive order ending his administration's separation ... www.politifact.com/.../donald-trumps-executive-order-ending-his-administr/Jun 25, 2018 - After falsely claiming that immigrant families were being separated at the ... Trump signed an executive order to keep children and parents together in ... The June 20 executive order came after growing criticism of Trump's ... Parents were referred for prosecution and taken into federal custody; I am no fan of Trump but I do have the ability to be fair...that is a good thing. So you think that I am "crying" about all this? Your statement shows a totally callous attitude towards the well being of these children. Your attitude shows that
you regard these immigrant children to be less important than the enforcement of a law, right? FYI....February 2018, the Trump administration began a practice of separating minor children entering the United States from the parents or relatives that accompanied them, including people applying for asylum. FYI...Trump started this atrocity, and the only reason Trump issued the executive order to stop it was due to public outcry, you know, from decent people of conscience. I am no fan of Trump but I do have the ability to be fair. Sorry, anyone that's read any of your posts knows that this statement is BS on both accounts
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