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Post by suds00 on Jun 13, 2018 12:21:12 GMT -5
with each passing day it seems to be less and less likely that robert mueller has the "goods"on trump.he should release his findings and indict whoever he can;including trump's son.
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Post by Drifter on Jun 13, 2018 12:27:36 GMT -5
I believe Mueller is a methodical person. He starts at the bottom and is working his way up to the top dog. Be patient...there will be something on trump in his final report.
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Post by QuickSilver on Jun 13, 2018 12:51:33 GMT -5
I believe Mueller is a methodical person. He starts at the bottom and is working his way up to the top dog. Be patient...there will be something on trump in his final report. I agree... Trump is as dirty as they come.. It makes me laugh that Conservatives had no problem "investigating" Clinton about Benghazi for FOUR years... even though they found NOTHING... Yet Complain one year of a Mueller investigation is toooooooooooooooooooo long... despite 20 indictments and 4 guilty pleas.. Gimme a break.
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Post by Kady on Jun 13, 2018 12:57:35 GMT -5
Rumor is that Cohen is ready to flip, if he does, this will advance Mueller's investigation greatly....anyway it looks like Cohen will be arrested soon and Manafort will be jailed.....moving right along.
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Post by QuickSilver on Jun 13, 2018 13:19:54 GMT -5
with each passing day it seems to be less and less likely that robert mueller has the "goods"on trump.he should release his findings and indict whoever he can;including trump's son. What makes you think there is nothing on Trump? What is the likelihood that Manafort, and Trump's son didn't keep Trump advised on what was going on? I'm certain Trump knew everything and gave his OK... That would make him as guilty as someone who hires a hit man to commit a murder..
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Post by rosa427 on Jun 13, 2018 14:19:40 GMT -5
It didn't work that way when it came to releasing the results on Nixon, why would we or anyone else expect a rush job when completing a full investigation in this case. It's never that simple, there are things that may be obvious, but, not always that easy to prove, so, all the t's must be crossed i's dotted, no room. The process has to be methodical and not at time we feel is comfortable by what some grand standing lawyers and political pundits are tweeting and putting in our heads, making us think there's some time-line where we should be privy to the details of what the prosecutor and his people know. It ain't so, we'll know when it's time for us to know and not a second before.
I look forward to the close of the investigation when Mueller has determined it is time.
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Post by tnthomas on Jun 13, 2018 15:00:28 GMT -5
Nixon was a lawyer and knew how to navigate the legal maze, but in the end he was unable to dodge the "obstruction of justice" or "abuse of power," bullets. Trump typically does not listen to his lawyers, is UN-disciplined and impulsive, and is just more likely to step on his own neck. I would much rather see Mueller take his time, put together a rock solid case, rather than sloppily rush the process. Sure, it would be great to wrap this up before the 2020 election, but remember this: an incumbent president always* has the edge for re-election, so unless the Dems gain control of both
houses of Congress in 2018(unlikely!) and actual criminal charges are brought against Trump(???) then we are going to see a second four year term of Trump.
No president has ever been removed from office, even though Trump would richly deserve to be removed, it's just....unlikely.
*except Jimmy Carter and GHW Bush.
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Post by suds00 on Jun 13, 2018 15:13:04 GMT -5
i hope that you all are right.slow and steady wins the race.it is just maddening.for this he should be charged with obstruction.maybe.he'll resign during second term.i hope that our nation survives.
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