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Post by The Inspector on Apr 27, 2018 12:39:11 GMT -5
Here’s why so many smart people don’t believe in evolution www.businessinsider.com/christian-jewish-religious-evolution-2016-9It turns out that high CRT scores most strongly predict that people will stick to their cultural beliefs about evolution. So very secular students with high CRT scores were likely to accept evolution, and very religious students with high CRT scores were likely to reject the science. They suggest an alternative model of disbelief, which they call "expressive rationality." The theory is that people with highly developed mental tools for turning over and examining ideas are more skilled at explaining to themselves why they shouldn't — or should — accept a verifiable scientific claim. So smart people delude them shelves in a smart way? Gervais and Ara Nornzayan asked students to answer these three questions: WIDGET. If it takes 5 machines 5 minutes to make 5 widgets, how long would it take 100 machines to make 100 widgets? ____ minutes BATBALL. A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost? ____ cents LILYPAD. In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Every day, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half of the lake? ____ days Take a second to think them over. I got them all right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 18:11:06 GMT -5
The theory of evolution has some holes in it. But not nearly as many as those silly assed Bible stories.
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Post by formerlyme on Apr 28, 2018 8:01:18 GMT -5
Here’s why so many smart people don’t believe in evolution www.businessinsider.com/christian-jewish-religious-evolution-2016-9It turns out that high CRT scores most strongly predict that people will stick to their cultural beliefs about evolution. So very secular students with high CRT scores were likely to accept evolution, and very religious students with high CRT scores were likely to reject the science. They suggest an alternative model of disbelief, which they call "expressive rationality." The theory is that people with highly developed mental tools for turning over and examining ideas are more skilled at explaining to themselves why they shouldn't — or should — accept a verifiable scientific claim. So smart people delude them shelves in a smart way? Gervais and Ara Nornzayan asked students to answer these three questions: WIDGET. If it takes 5 machines 5 minutes to make 5 widgets, how long would it take 100 machines to make 100 widgets? ____ minutes BATBALL. A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost? ____ cents LILYPAD. In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Every day, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half of the lake? ____ days Take a second to think them over. I got them all right. I don't know where to find the correct answers. My answers are: 5 minutes, 5 cents, 47 days.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 9:08:14 GMT -5
Here’s why so many smart people don’t believe in evolution www.businessinsider.com/christian-jewish-religious-evolution-2016-9It turns out that high CRT scores most strongly predict that people will stick to their cultural beliefs about evolution. So very secular students with high CRT scores were likely to accept evolution, and very religious students with high CRT scores were likely to reject the science. They suggest an alternative model of disbelief, which they call "expressive rationality." The theory is that people with highly developed mental tools for turning over and examining ideas are more skilled at explaining to themselves why they shouldn't — or should — accept a verifiable scientific claim. So smart people delude them shelves in a smart way? Gervais and Ara Nornzayan asked students to answer these three questions: WIDGET. If it takes 5 machines 5 minutes to make 5 widgets, how long would it take 100 machines to make 100 widgets? ____ minutes BATBALL. A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost? ____ cents LILYPAD. In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Every day, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half of the lake? ____ days Take a second to think them over. I got them all right. I don't know where to find the correct answers. My answers are: 5 minutes, 5 cents, 47 days. Those are the correct answers. But the freakin article is meaningless. It says if you get all the answers right you are likely to accept evolution or reject it. Well duh.
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Post by tnthomas on Apr 28, 2018 11:02:58 GMT -5
...from the article:
Well, it alerts me to the possibility that someone has written some controversial about evolution.
I'm average IQ, so-so student in collage and have religious convictions. Here's what I think:
Evolution is just an adaptive process, a means for Creation to make genetic corrections to an organism, to adapt to changing environments.
That's it. No Blasphemy, no denial of science- my beliefs here on in harmony.
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Post by The Inspector on Apr 28, 2018 11:28:41 GMT -5
I was surprised, for a smart person,TobyTyler. your answers were very intuitive.
It's a test to see if you dig for the right anwer or just take the first one what looks right.
The point, a strong bias overrides intelligence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 15:06:53 GMT -5
I was surprised, for a smart person,TobyTyler. your answers were very intuitive. I don't know what you are talking about. My answers were right not so much because I'm smart, although I am, but because they were simple problems.
And really smart people know enough not to buy into evolution whole hog either because it is as yet an unproven theory. Creationism on the other hand, as presented in the Bible, doesn't pass the laugh test. But the truth is we humans don't know how things got to be the way they are. I don't think we will ever know the true nature of the universe. At least not in my lifetime. But if by chance ET pays us a visit and clues us in, it's probably going to be mind boggling.
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Post by tnthomas on Apr 28, 2018 15:25:30 GMT -5
Neither Creation nor Evolution tells the whole story, but one thing (I believe) is evident, that life forms look like there was some planning and engineering going on...except of course the Platypus.
And, live forms have DNA programming that allows adaptation to changing environments.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 17:58:01 GMT -5
Neither Creation nor Evolution tells the whole story, but one thing (I believe) is evident, that life forms look like there was some planning and engineering going on...except of course the Platypus. And, live forms have DNA programming that allows adaptation to changing environments. I guess that would be the "Intelligent Design" theory. Which while also unproven, does make a lot of sense. However it does not mean that God is behind it all. We could be just some Petri dish that some High School student from some advanced extra-terrestrial civilization is using for his science fair project.
Wouldn't that be a hoot?
If our "creator" was some zit faced extra-terrestrial nerd that couldn't get a date for the prom?
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Post by tnthomas on Apr 28, 2018 20:14:55 GMT -5
Neither Creation nor Evolution tells the whole story, but one thing (I believe) is evident, that life forms look like there was some planning and engineering going on...except of course the Platypus. And, live forms have DNA programming that allows adaptation to changing environments. I guess that would be the "Intelligent Design" theory. Which while also unproven, does make a lot of sense. However it does not mean that God is behind it all. We could be just some Petri dish that some High School student from some advanced extra-terrestrial civilization is using for his science fair project. Wouldn't that be a hoot? If our "creator" was some zit faced extra-terrestrial nerd that couldn't get a date for the prom? Yes, my creation+evolution beliefs do resemble the Intelligent Design theory, I hadn't heard of IDT until a couple years ago, from what I've read, its introduction into school curriculum drove the rwnj types insane(er). And yea, the scenario of there being an extra-terrestrial creator is not outside the realm of possibility, in my view. Such an extra-terrestrial nerd would quite rightly deserve the title of "God", as the creator of live on Earth. Except...where did the extra-terrestrial God come from?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 8:24:37 GMT -5
Except...where did the extra-terrestrial God come from? Well he's in another bigger being's Petri-dish. And that goes on and on to infinity. The problem is once a human being starts to ponder on infinity he's screwed. Infinity i a concept we can name, but we can't understand. Just like the computer in the original Star Trek episode. That's when some people turn to religion. To try to deal with it. I myself just accept that some things are unknowable. What is scary about religion is that when some people get immersed in it they start believing that they have all the answers. Back in the olden times, I think it might have been in Greece, there was this philosopher dude, I forget his name, that said "I know that I know nothing" Now that was a smart dude. Because it seems to me that the more you learn in this world the more you realize how much you don't know.
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Post by rjhangover on Apr 29, 2018 14:35:09 GMT -5
Here’s why so many smart people don’t believe in evolution www.businessinsider.com/christian-jewish-religious-evolution-2016-9It turns out that high CRT scores most strongly predict that people will stick to their cultural beliefs about evolution. So very secular students with high CRT scores were likely to accept evolution, and very religious students with high CRT scores were likely to reject the science. They suggest an alternative model of disbelief, which they call "expressive rationality." The theory is that people with highly developed mental tools for turning over and examining ideas are more skilled at explaining to themselves why they shouldn't — or should — accept a verifiable scientific claim. So smart people delude them shelves in a smart way? Gervais and Ara Nornzayan asked students to answer these three questions: WIDGET. If it takes 5 machines 5 minutes to make 5 widgets, how long would it take 100 machines to make 100 widgets? ____ minutes BATBALL. A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost? ____ cents LILYPAD. In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Every day, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half of the lake? ____ days Take a second to think them over. I got them all right. If you don't know evolution, you've not paid attention to the last hundred years. The world has gone from horseback to the moon. Knowledge Doubling Every 12 Months, Soon to be Every 12 Hours www.industrytap.com/knowledge-doubling-every-12-months-soon-to-be-every-12-hours/3950
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Post by The Inspector on Apr 29, 2018 19:14:34 GMT -5
Yes, the big thing that adds credence to science is that with new info. you get new answers.
with the advent of DNA tec. evolution has changed. Like we know humans had greater variations then they do today.
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Post by Warrigal on May 6, 2018 1:47:35 GMT -5
The evolutionary progression of life forms is written in the layers of the rocks. To deny that it has happened is as pointless as arguing that all matter consists of combinations of the four elements fire, earth, wind and water.
The only argument left is the mechanism that drive the evolutionary process. The evidence support the theory of natural selection and periodic mutations of genes. Also, whether the process is purely random or guided by a cosmic intelligence.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 9:16:27 GMT -5
Bottom line, what it comes down to for me is whether I want to buy into the latest science or a 2,000 year old book of mythology. I'm gonna go with science.
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