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Post by ellie1142545 on Sept 5, 2017 14:29:53 GMT -5
Haven't you noticed? Have you looked around you, and seen? Have you been watching the news? It's gotten to the point, that I no longer watch the news, because of what's going on. This past week, we've had a break from all the going on's. The name calling, mud slinging, the beatings, the lying, the animosity. It all boils down to one thing, and one thing only. Almost everyone seems to have lost their respect. Respect is what holds America together. America is not being held together any more. Name calling, racism, slander, destruction, terrorism, murders, beatings, torture,m mayhem. That's all I am seeing now. It's Black Lives Matter, or White Supremacist, KKK, and now another group has popped up, Antifa. All out for one thing. Destruction. Taking America down to her knees. They are out to destroy this beautiful country of ours. They are destroying American History. They've torn one statue down of Robert E. Lee. All others are being removed, or covered up, so nobody is offended by seeing them. They no longer recite the Pledge of Alligence. No longer stand for the National Anthem, but will get down on their knee's, or sit, and look to the ground. They don't like our President, so the slander him, have threatened his wife, and family. What happened to showing respect? I sure didn't vote for Obama, but he had my respect. Even when he started calling the white people of America Racist. And the riots started before his tenure was up. Every evening on the news. All of a sudden there's a racist war. America needs to be brought back together. It needs to stand United once more, and the only way we can do it, is to show respect. Quit the lying, the mud slinging, the slander, the mayhem, the beatings, the tortures. And start showing respect once more. America Now: Let's get together again, lets stand United again, let's put a Smile back on her face: Only we can put America back together again. By putting God and Respect back in it. Without God, without Respect, America is divided.
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Post by Drifter on Sept 5, 2017 15:13:35 GMT -5
Respect is earned, not given.
Just because someone is the POTUS, doesn't mean one needs to respect him. He must rise up and do something respectable...so far, all I see is him tearing everything down & apart!
#45 said he was going to be the unifier for all. He cannot accomplish that when so many disagree with the policies put forth. His mission is to undo everything the past President has accomplished. The latest...DACA. Have you no compassion for the Dreamers that were brought here as babies and small children and now do not know their fate?!
Yes, I will watch the news....absorb what is important to me and let the rest go. I won't be burying my head in the sand like everything will be okay, go away, if I don't watch it.
Your thread on "Respect" is nothing more than a collage of Bible verses. Common sense tells me to go with what is in my heart, not what is written on the pages of some book.
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Post by formerlyme on Sept 5, 2017 22:19:57 GMT -5
I don't need any religious text or a belief in a Higher Power to understand respect, and to be a generally respectful person. However, I agree with Drifter that respect is something one earns through their behaviour/attitudes, and nobody is entitled to it merely because of their status or position.
Obama is a good well-intentioned person, but where is Trump's respect for him with all that 'Birther' nonsense questioning Obama's right to be POTUS, and Trump's (now officially debunked) fibs about Obama spying on him. Trump is a misogynist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, a chronic liar, a shallow person who is a self-serving narcissist. Furthermore, he is, in my opinion, 'a few bricks shy of a load'. He is bringing the Presidency into disrepute. To respect him makes no sense, unless one is willfully blind or able to ignore the obvious facts.
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Post by ellie1142545 on Sept 12, 2017 9:22:44 GMT -5
I never voted for, nor cared for his actions as President, but I still respect Obama. I am a person who, if I can not think of one nice thing to say about someone, I won't say anything at all.
The study on respect was more out of my thoughts in today's world, though I used Bible Verses to let others know my feelings.
You both have brought forth very good points here, but....saying that a person has to earn respect, then I guess I have a long way to go. I say this because there is a person who attacks me on one of my sites, and the same person is stalking me on another. Oh, and this person? I show respect to always.
With me, no one needs to earn respect from me. I freely give it.
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Post by Drifter on Sept 12, 2017 12:19:14 GMT -5
The definition of respect is "a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements."
What you are speaking of, is "civility." It refers to politeness or etiquette. When you do not really like someone very much but you manage to treat him politely, greeting him and behaving in a socially acceptable way...this is an example of civility.
There is a difference between the two.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 17:44:34 GMT -5
By putting God and Respect back in it. Without God, without Respect, America is divided. With all due respect, I am an Atheist.
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Post by QuickSilver on Oct 2, 2017 17:56:57 GMT -5
I have always wondered about the audacity of believing that only those embracing religion.. specifically Christianity are the only ones capable of being honorable and having morals... Morals and knowing right from wrong were in place long before Christianity. It's quite insulting.
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Post by ellie1142545 on Oct 2, 2017 17:59:41 GMT -5
By putting God and Respect back in it. Without God, without Respect, America is divided. With all due respect, I am an Atheist. That's fine. You are showing respect. And that's very important. To accept a person as he/she is, give/show them respect.
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Post by ellie1142545 on Oct 2, 2017 18:04:31 GMT -5
I have always wondered about the audacity of believing that only those embracing religion.. specifically Christianity are the only ones capable of being honorable and having morals... Morals and knowing right from wrong were in place long before Christianity. It's quite insulting. Sorry you feel that way. I'm a Christian, and stand firm. I also accept people regardless of whether they're Christians or not, and give them respect. I expect no less, or no more. We all believe differently. I accept that. And rest assured, I know that there are many many people in all walks of life who are honorable, have good morals, and show respect. You are one of those people, though I don't know you, I do respect you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 18:11:27 GMT -5
That's fine. You are showing respect. And that's very important. To accept a person as he/she is, give/show them respect. Actually ellie I was being sarcastic. To be perfectly honest I found your post to be quite condescending and sanctimonious.
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Post by 2old on Oct 2, 2017 18:41:18 GMT -5
I remember the 60's. Flags burned. Draft cards burned. Bras burned. Free love. LSD. Where was the respect when our soldiers came home from Viet Nam? Sad time in American history... but OUR Country survived.
I remember those who made fun of President Carter's daughter, Amy. She was referred to in all kinds of derogatory terms. Likewise with the Clinton's daughter. No respect... but OUR Country survived.
Then, I remember the cartoons showing President Obama as an ape. I remember the drawings showing him hung in effigy. I remember a worker at one of my sites saying he hoped someone shot and killed "the n***er President"... even before he was sworn in. We saw no respect from the members of Congress, the conservatives, those who argued... still argue... that he was not a natural born citizen and that he was a practicing Muslim. No respect... but OUR Country survived.
Today, we have a Country... OUR Country divided. We need a President who the entire citizenry of OUR Country can respect as he works diligently to pull us together. Yet, from the time in his campaign through his election and into his first months of being President he has further divided the Nation. He simply cannot tell the truth. He has a thin skin that seems to invite him seeking retribution rather than working to unite. I believe I am seeing almost as many people showing their dissent for this President and his lack of respect for those who are to look to him for leadership than I saw demonstrating in the 60's. This President, so far, has done nothing to earn respect. He spits in the face of those who simply ask that he be forthright and truthful with us. So, people are becoming quick to use the rights afforded under the First Amendment to show their dissent. And... OUR Country will survive.
There are days I see something that gives me a glimmer of hope this President is on a learning curve and will begin uniting and stop the dividing. Then, the next day, he's back at his Twitter account dashing that hope. I would like nothing better than to see this President evidence the truthfulness and courage whereby I could respect him as an elected official. I will never respect a person who has cheated on three wives, has suggested it is okay to grab women by their genitals, has publicly made fun of the handicapped and war heroes. I could respect a President while not respecting the "person" who holds that office. Before that happens, the person holding that office needs to display the character necessary to earn that respect.
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Post by QuickSilver on Oct 2, 2017 18:47:56 GMT -5
I can not... and I will not respect someone simply because he has a title... This president has done nothing to earn my respect.. quite the opposite.. He has earned my disgust.. I'm afraid there is little he can do to change that now.
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Post by ellie1142545 on Oct 2, 2017 19:00:21 GMT -5
That's fine. You are showing respect. And that's very important. To accept a person as he/she is, give/show them respect. Actually ellie I was being sarcastic. To be perfectly honest I found your post to be quite condescending and sanctimonious. Sorry you feel that way. I was speaking from my point of view. I was saying what I was feeling. I did not, nor I will ever, expect everyone else to believe exactly as I do. We all believe differently.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 8:05:38 GMT -5
Actually ellie I was being sarcastic. To be perfectly honest I found your post to be quite condescending and sanctimonious. Sorry you feel that way. I was speaking from my point of view. I was saying what I was feeling. I did not, nor I will ever, expect everyone else to believe exactly as I do. We all believe differently. Ah yes, the old "plausible deniability" game. I know it well. Play iy myself sometimes. What's that old saying again? "Never try to bullsh*t a bullshitter"?
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Post by ellie1142545 on Oct 3, 2017 10:51:17 GMT -5
Sorry you feel that way. I was speaking from my point of view. I was saying what I was feeling. I did not, nor I will ever, expect everyone else to believe exactly as I do. We all believe differently. Ah yes, the old "plausible deniability" game. I know it well. Play iy myself sometimes. What's that old saying again? "Never try to bullsh*t a bullshitter"? Coming from me, you can count on my being truthful, just continue reading what I post, and you will see.
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