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Post by rebecca2013 on Sept 29, 2017 20:11:38 GMT -5
... With no doubts, there is a definite religious discrimination which is exacerbated by the current divided nature of thinking here in the United States. My dear friend Randah from the FBI wears a Hijab to work and other places... At the FBI she said sometimes... even there she has certain "feelings" that people are looking at her "differently" In public in certain stores, she feels that she is "overly" watched which amuses her being that she is a FBI Special Agent but she said in conversation that she has become indifferent as you can't change people's preconceived notions about Muslims. Visibility of course is a key element(wearing of the hijab) is associated with greater perceived discrimination. Studies have shown that perceived discrimination among Muslim Americans is related to the expression of increased vigilance and suspicion. This has been heighten by the increased focus and paranoia from the very top structures of this government. As for my Jewish friends, they have cited that since the election season and now.... they have felt that the racism and overtones have been on the increase. One of my staff is an ordained rabbi who has suffered having paint splattered all over his car, had his wife's car tires slashed (all four) and indicated that he had to actually move to another area in December because of these issues... One could argue that it was just random vandalism but I think David was correct as he was a visible target. He wears a kippah, and like a hijab, undeniably places him within that religion on sight. He was a Bernie Sanders supporter in an area which was hands down Trump.. Does this mean anything? Perhaps not but his sign for his support was ripped twice and painted with a swastika... I am not sure if it was a comment against David and his family or of Bernie but in either case he felt pressure to move out. Why is this happening? I believe that certain elements have slipped out of the swamps and are feeling emboldened. There is a lot to be said for having a good deal of important people in high places who have shadowy backgrounds and spew racism, White supremacy and who espouse and openly endorse violence. And Mexicans?? Just look at popular culture for a moment... Mexicans are often portrayed as drug dealers, lawn workers and corrupt policemen in the movies. Most are Catholic and in some areas Catholicism is looked on with suspicion. All of these behaviors can be attributed to people's irrational stereotypes and fears... When a society is polarized as much as the current situation in America, it becomes a fertile ground for the perpetuation of discrimination. I don't know if you'll agree or disagree, especially since I don't know your age or where you grew up, but where you say 'divided,' 'polarized,' etc., the general idea in the distant past (although not everyone subscribed to it) was called the Melting Pot; in recent decades, 'multiculturalism' has replaced it- and from what I've seen, that accounts for much of the divisions these days. Instead of 'Americans,' people are now (fill in blanks)hyphenAmericans, (fill in blanks)hyphencommunities, with people more concerned about their specific 'cultures' than interacting with and getting along with other people. It's certainly important for everyone to be proud of where they or their families came from, but all this modern approach is doing is making it about 'differences'- 'us' vs. 'them.' And if it keeps up this way, it won't be long before the U.S. is nothing but quantities of 'communities' where everyone 'sticks to their own kind,' hating or being suspicious of anyone who isn't in that particular group. Well for starters I am 36 years old... I wasn't born here, I was born and raised in Playa Del Carmen, in the state of Quintana Roo México which for reference is on the Yucatán Peninsula, not too far from Cancún. I will agree that the hyphen is way overused... I am NOT a Mexican-American.... I am Mexican AND American. I am both. I will agree to some of that......... as we do have Mexican communities where the bonds are very tight. Just like Ziyi and the various China towns she visits....I happen NOT to live in such an area, I just plopped down in an upper middle class area and BOOM Here comes that "Hispanic" woman... sheesh... It works both ways.... Many people in my area when my ex-husband and I bought the house didn't particularly want Mexicans moving into "their"neighborhood.... Many didn't even speak to us... I do happen to have a few friends, across the street, a federal judge, down the street a retired Marine Colonel... many who were so cold have since moved.... but the point is.... I AM AN AMERICAN now.... but wasn't always treated so... even though I worked hard to be citizen, I am department director in one of the largest federal agencies and yet... if I am on my hands and knees working in my garden, some guy rolls up and asks me to "go and fetch my mistress" BAH!!!
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Post by walkaboutman on Oct 2, 2017 15:16:04 GMT -5
I find it ironic how i hear some Christian's preach to others but tend to show little of what they have been taught. It is like they choose to pick what ever they select.
Some condemn other religions
The hate and discrimination will never stop.
I remember as a young teen, hearing a baptist priest saying his church was better than the other baptist church a couple of suburbs away. This put me right off religion at that time. I questioned "Are we not all equals?" And was told no we are not. I had heart about Gods love and how we should treat others unyet, here was man of the cloth bagging out his own brother in another church of the same faith, Crazy,hypocritical nonsence. It crushed my faith for some time.
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Post by robusta on Oct 2, 2017 18:31:42 GMT -5
Funny that everyone is looking at this from one angle. I discriminate freely against religion. If I need a product or a service,and you display a fish,(especially) or other symbol of your faith, I will go to a merchant that knows his relationship with whom or whatever is a personal matter and keeps it from his business.
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Post by butterfly on Oct 12, 2017 0:28:46 GMT -5
Funny that everyone is looking at this from one angle. I discriminate freely against religion. If I need a product or a service,and you display a fish,(especially) or other symbol of your faith, I will go to a merchant that knows his relationship with whom or whatever is a personal matter and keeps it from his business. There's a big difference between making a personal choice not to patronize a business, and making a choice as a business owner to not provide goods or services to certain groups of people.
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Post by smitty45 on Oct 12, 2017 7:59:28 GMT -5
I find it ironic how i hear some Christian's preach to others but tend to show little of what they have been taught. It is like they choose to pick what ever they select. Some condemn other religions The hate and discrimination will never stop. I remember as a young teen, hearing a baptist priest saying his church was better than the other baptist church a couple of suburbs away. This put me right off religion at that time. I questioned "Are we not all equals?" And was told no we are not. I had heart about Gods love and how we should treat others unyet, here was man of the cloth bagging out his own brother in another church of the same faith, Crazy,hypocritical nonsence. It crushed my faith for some time. And that is the base reason why I have no use for organized religion. They preach about how God is so great and we need to follow his footsteps,, then the same people who go to church show nothing but hatred for anyone different. Yes,,, organized religion is hypocritical nonsense packed with a lot of bs. I have my own religion,,, it;s called Spirituality,, my religion is based on all the good things of all the faiths that center around one God. An all loving God. One that spends most time crying for his children.
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Post by tnthomas on Oct 12, 2017 22:26:53 GMT -5
And that is the base reason why I have no use for organized religion. They preach about how God is so great and we need to follow his footsteps,, then the same people who go to church show nothing but hatred for anyone different. Yes,,, organized religion is hypocritical nonsense packed with a lot of bs. I have my own religion,,, it;s called Spirituality,, my religion is based on all the good things of all the faiths that center around one God. An all loving God. One that spends most time crying for his children. I was raised a Christian in the Lutheran denomination, the church just stuck to the word of God, and focused on the teachings of Jesus. Those were good days in my early life. I worship God, and think of Jesus' life and death all the time. I don't attend a church, I am wary of what kind of "fellowship" I might encounter. I keep my own counsel, I don't want or need others to try to convey their views and/or prejudices in my direction.
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Post by rjhangover on Oct 13, 2017 10:52:32 GMT -5
Trump is speaking at a conservative Christian event today....I can't watch....I'm sure the news will report it. I'll find out then.
It really bothers me that so many Christian denominations say that they are the only ones going to heaven. They all supposedly worship the God of Abraham....and so do the Jews and Muslims. It's all the same God!
And very few people know how their bible was put together....The first Christian bible was put together by Constantine's priests at Nicaea. They took all the scriptures and picked the ones that gave power to the church, and labeled the rest Heresy. More than half of the scriptures were not put in the bible...After 1500 years of Catholic rule, we now have what is called the apocrypha...The book of Enoch, the gospel of Mary, the revelation of Peter, and many more.
The first six books of the old testament are also in the Koran, and the Torah.
So how is it that so many wars are fought over the same God? Because of beliefs, and not the truth.
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