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Post by The Inspector on Dec 25, 2023 19:34:42 GMT -5
What really drives anti-abortion beliefs? Research suggests it's a matter of sexual strategies
The crux of this argument is that, for sexually restricted people, other people’s sexual freedoms represent threats. Consider that sexually restricted women often get married young and have children early in life. These choices are just as valid as a decision to wait, but they can also be detrimental to women’s occupational attainment and tend to leave women more economically dependent on husbands.
Other women’s sexual openness can destroy these women’s lives and livelihoods by breaking up the relationships they depend on. So sexually restricted women benefit from impeding other people’s sexual freedoms. Likewise, sexually restricted men tend to invest a lot in their children, so they benefit from prohibiting people’s sexual freedoms to preclude the high fitness costs of being cuckolded.
This makes a lot of sense to me. People make chooses and kid are a big one, and the fastest way for women with kids to go into poverty is a divorce. Women that are not as into family could be a competitor. Trying to make them have children, could make them feel safer?
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Post by dragonlady on Dec 25, 2023 22:05:19 GMT -5
Before I divorced my husband, I went back to university to finish my BSN. When I did it, it was an "in case" measure because I knew I'd never be able to support myself and four kids on a waitresses income. The handwriting was on the wall, so to speak, for the continuation of the marriage. It was 5 years before I actually divorced him. I tried, but I just couldn't do it any more
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Post by The Inspector on Dec 25, 2023 22:23:05 GMT -5
Before I divorced my husband, I went back to university to finish my BSN. When I did it, it was an "in case" measure because I knew I'd never be able to support myself and four kids on a waitresses income. The handwriting was on the wall, so to speak, for the continuation of the marriage. It was 5 years before I actually divorced him. I tried, but I just couldn't do it any more Ye, I knew A Guy, who did not want to go home, I was closing the place, and worked out a time, he had to go. He tried like hell to stick it out for the Kids, I changed jobs, lost track of him, some time latter I saw him, he looked so much better, he had got a divorce, She was trying to turn the kids on him. But he was free.
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Post by 2old on Dec 28, 2023 7:35:06 GMT -5
Just in a generation, we've seen a change in how a woman working out of the home is accepted. My wife was a stay-at-home mom until our kids were out of high school. I was the major bread winner. Raised as farm kids, we saw our own mothers either stay home or work out of the home in very low paying jobs. The man "ruled the roost" and often took it as a slap in the face if his wife "had" to supplement his income.
I was taught, early in our marriage, to never as someone if their wife worked!! It was always phrased, "Does your wife work out of the home?" Child care. Cooking. Cleaning. Gardening. Canning. Sewing. The list is long. It was, in many cases, a 20 hour/day job!!
As the transition from the "plain old housewife" to ladies with careers has happened, it's not been taken well by many of the males. Others, however, have looked past the "hierarchy" issue, accepted their wives having a career and the family unit has remained strong.
Neither of our daughters had college educations. Both went to work in "womanly" jobs out of high school. When each married, their husbands were the principle breadwinners. Both have been married over 25 years to their first husbands. Both are now in careers where they are the major income in their family. Both husbands have accepted that and comment positively about the flipflop of careers. Both have kids and, together with their husbands, worked through the child rearing ages. Many males are still not comfortable with this.
Today's GenZ seems to have made the transition and is comfortable with it. Granddaughter's wedding is set for August '24. She and her SO have already purchased a home together. She has by far the major income between them. He does most of the cooking. He handles most of the house chores...except cleaning. (She's an OCD "neat nut" and prefers doing that herself.) He's okay, knowing the income issue and is supportive of it. So many in the past generations would not be!
We've now seen a woman VPOTUS. We should have seen a woman POTUS!! We're seeing women as corporate CEO's, police chiefs, doctors, lawyers. My generation has lived during this transition and seen the men come through it, kicking and screaming, but our society is better off for it!!
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Post by dragonlady on Dec 28, 2023 14:10:09 GMT -5
One possible deeply hidden reason for the almost frantic behavior 0f some anti-abortion individuals may be because of fear that immigrant populations may out-produce them and spur an increase in the racial percentages of non whites. I don't know the current percentages on this, but white women are not producing as many offspring as they did at one time (due to both better methods of contraception and abortion) and the racial balance in the US is shifting somewhat. A significant percentage of immigrants (particularly those from South of us) are Catholics and don't even use contraception(there's even talk of outlawing contraception). I suspect white supremacists and white supremacist-leaning conservatives don't relish being out-numbered by "inferior races". I c0uld be way off but I strongly suspect this whole "immigration" uproar is a lot more complicated than is being acknowledged on the part of many conservative thinking individuals - related to race - than what is being put forth as the reason for objecting. Most of these people claim to be christians - and this is very unchristian like behavior!
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Post by 2old on Dec 29, 2023 8:32:58 GMT -5
One possible deeply hidden reason for the almost frantic behavior 0f some anti-abortion individuals may be because of fear that immigrant populations may out-produce them and spur an increase in the racial percentages of non whites. I don't know the current percentages on this, but white women are not producing as many offspring as they did at one time (due to both better methods of contraception and abortion) and the racial balance in the US is shifting somewhat. A significant percentage of immigrants (particularly those from South of us) are Catholics and don't even use contraception(there's even talk of outlawing contraception). I suspect white supremacists and white supremacist-leaning conservatives don't relish being out-numbered by "inferior races". I c0uld be way off but I strongly suspect this whole "immigration" uproar is a lot more complicated than is being acknowledged on the part of many conservative thinking individuals - related to race - than what is being put forth as the reason for objecting. Most of these people claim to be christians - and this is very unchristian like behavior! I think you are 100% correct! We keep hearing the white conservatives suggest the Caucasian majority in the U.S. is rapidly coming to an end. They were concerned as the black areas grew and we saw the people of color reproducing faster than the Caucasians. Now, the immigration of thousands of Latinos exacerbates their fear of becoming a minority. Too mankind didn't evolve as a single color...red, green, purple... so the pigment of one's skin was not a reason for hate.
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