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Post by notbob on Apr 22, 2019 9:52:23 GMT -5
Talking like a Republican:Millennials who think that times are tough in 2018 have no room to complain, according to former Vice President Joe Biden, who said that he had “no empathy” for young people who compared today to the struggles of the 1960s. “The younger generation now tells me how tough things are—give me a break,” said Biden, while speaking to Patt Morrison of the Los Angeles Times to promote his new book. “No, no, I have no empathy for it, give me a break.” Biden compared the complaints of millennials to what he experienced growing up in the 1960s and '70s, mentioning the civil rights and women’s liberation movements that were gaining traction simultaneously with the Vietnam War, making the United States a troubling place for young activists at the time. Former Vice President Joe Biden speaks onstage during Glamour Celebrates 2017 Women Of The Year Live Summit at Brooklyn Museum on November 13, 2017, in New York City.CRAIG BARRITT/GETTY IMAGES “Here’s the deal, guys,” continued Biden. “We decided we were going to change the world, and we did.” Whether Biden agrees or not, there is evidence to support the idea that millennials, the generation born between the early 1980s and mid-'90s, have inherited a slew of problems that have put them at an economic disadvantage compared to previous generations. Millennials are more likely to have advanced college degrees, but earn 20 percent less than baby boomers when they were the same age. Healthcare, housing and education are more than five times more expensive than they were just a few decades ago, writer Michael Hobbes tells NPR. Student debt has skyrocketed, making homeownership unrealistic for many, reports Bloomberg. And the struggle to advocate for civil rights continues today, as recent movements like #MeToo, #BlackLivesMatter and #TimesUpNow have demonstrated. Biden stuck with the “entitled millennial” characterization while speaking on Wednesday, calling on young people to get involved in politics rather than complain. www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-says-millennials-dont-have-it-tough-780348
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Post by suds00 on Apr 22, 2019 10:45:08 GMT -5
every generation has problems to overcome.if trump is re-elected[ugh] this generation will have them for a long time
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Post by nkat on Apr 22, 2019 11:31:48 GMT -5
I like Biden and would vote for him. Every generation has their problems.
nkat
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Post by notbob on Apr 22, 2019 13:30:01 GMT -5
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Post by nkat on Apr 22, 2019 13:49:52 GMT -5
I do not know what I feel about that. Many people lived above their means on credit cards but others needed them for medical bills. nkat
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Post by rebecca2013 on Apr 22, 2019 13:57:18 GMT -5
I like Biden as well.... but.... I am beginning to wobble. I like what I hear from Buttigieg. I don't know if he'll make it but I do like his determination.... Gillibrand no.... just no..... Harris I do like... I think she started out strong but has weakened.... Warren.... well.... I like her.... but I think she has a lot of uphill battle to be the nominee O’Rourke I have cooled off with.... not really the firebrand I thought he would be....Sanders (Next)......... Castro..... Booker and the rest?? Featherweights not expected to last... they may but.... don't think they will.... Klobuchar well.... maybe.... but.... Biden has the grasp on being someone who it seems like everyone wishes to back.... I am not sure he is ready to face the Pendejo In Chief... Gosh I may be dreaming but it would be fantastic if William Weld got the Republican Nomination!! hahahahah
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Post by formerlyme on Apr 22, 2019 14:03:13 GMT -5
I've always liked Biden, but I disagree with his lack of empathy for Millenials who are having a tough go of it. Many are well educated, stuck with enormous student loan debt, and must take on 2 or 3 minimum-wage jobs that they are overqualified for...all this just to make ends meet The rich get generous tax breaks, while the struggling poor and lower middle classes get social services cut. Every generation has challenges, and Millenials are no exception.
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Post by notbob on Apr 22, 2019 15:01:13 GMT -5
I like Biden as well.... but.... I am beginning to wobble. I like what I hear from Buttigieg. I don't know if he'll make it but I do like his determination.... Gillibrand no.... just no..... Harris I do like... I think she started out strong but has weakened.... Warren.... well.... I like her.... but I think she has a lot of uphill battle to be the nominee O’Rourke I have cooled off with.... not really the firebrand I thought he would be....Sanders (Next)......... Castro..... Booker and the rest?? Featherweights not expected to last... they may but.... don't think they will.... Klobuchar well.... maybe.... but.... Biden has the grasp on being someone who it seems like everyone wishes to back.... I am not sure he is ready to face the Pendejo In Chief... Gosh I may be dreaming but it would be fantastic if William Weld got the Republican Nomination!! hahahahah I agree with a lot of your assessment. While I have liked Biden overall throughout the years, I think he represents the status quo and he will no doubt have corporate sponsors - to say nothing of his age. The status quo won't move us forward. It may slow down Republican progress, but that isn't what we should strive for. A populous message is what we should stand for. Anything less is virtually nothing. Republicans have demonstrated they have absolutely no intention of working with the Left so in my opinion, we should drive our messaging home and roll over them. I think Buttigieg is doing that in a very soft, subtle manner and his message of "love" and unity seems to be resonating. I like him a lot. I also think we should watch Andrew Yang. His ideas may seem far fetched, but I want to know more about him and I want to better understand how his ideas might actually work if implemented. As far as I'm concerned, I wish AOC were old enough to run. Maybe 2028.
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Post by suds00 on Apr 22, 2019 15:37:27 GMT -5
i'd like to see klobuchar vs.weld no trump at all.
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Post by nkat on Apr 22, 2019 16:00:56 GMT -5
I've always liked Biden, but I disagree with his lack of empathy for Millenials who are having a tough go of it. Many are well educated, stuck with enormous student loan debt, and must take on 2 or 3 minimum-wage jobs that they are overqualified for...all this just to make ends meet The rich get generous tax breaks, while the struggling poor and lower middle classes get social services cut. Every generation has challenges, and Millenials are no exception. When my dd graduated from college in the 90’s there were no jobs either. We need other occupations not just college grads. My dd did finally get an engineering job. nkat
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Post by birdgal on Apr 22, 2019 20:32:02 GMT -5
So far I like Kolbuchar the best. But, it's way too early. I'll probably change my mind. I mean there's only about 50 so far to choose from, right? Lol.
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Post by butterfly on Apr 23, 2019 8:50:09 GMT -5
I used to work with quite a few millenials, and one thing that always struck me was that they expected to graduate from college one day and step into six figure jobs right away, rather than starting low on the totem pole and working up. Also, many of them I encountered had decrees in things that really didn't help their employability -- like art history or fashion design, or archaeology. Not that those degrees and liberal arts degrees do not have any value, but their value is only in very limited fields, and are not very applicable in the everyday 21st century workplace.
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Post by notbob on Apr 23, 2019 13:20:20 GMT -5
I used to work with quite a few millenials, and one thing that always struck me was that they expected to graduate from college one day and step into six figure jobs right away, rather than starting low on the totem pole and working up. Also, many of them I encountered had decrees in things that really didn't help their employability -- like art history or fashion design, or archaeology. Not that those degrees and liberal arts degrees do not have any value, but their value is only in very limited fields, and are not very applicable in the everyday 21st century workplace. It's interesting you mentioned degrees unrelated to employment. I worked at a Sears store in the early 70s. Since I didn't have a degree, I wouldn't be considered for management beyond a department manager position. We had a college grad trainee who would become a department manager after he completed training on his way toward a higher management position either within a store and/or within the corporate structure. His degree was in drama. I doubt that would fly today and maybe that's why Sears is where it is today.
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Post by QuickSilver on Apr 23, 2019 13:31:59 GMT -5
I completely disagree with him... We DID have it much easier in the 1960's than this generation has today.. We could come right out of High School and step into a manufacturing job with Union benefits.. we could support a family on those wages too.. Have a nice little house and a car and take family vacations.. Most times this could all be done on one paycheck. We could keep this job for 30 or 40 years and earn a nice pension in addition to our SS benefits.. That is not possible today.
We could also, should we have chosen to go to college.. Most people went to school on grants or scholarships.. that were readily available for the asking... Tuitions were very low and student loans easily obtained and paid back, because there were very good paying jobs awaiting college graduates..
Biden is stuck in the past.. It's very hard today for millennials to reach the same level of success with the ease we had. This is going to be the first generation not expected to do better than their parents... and certainly nowhere near as well as their grandparents. Biden is just full of crap..
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Post by formerlyme on Apr 23, 2019 15:13:47 GMT -5
I used to work with quite a few millenials, and one thing that always struck me was that they expected to graduate from college one day and step into six figure jobs right away, rather than starting low on the totem pole and working up. Also, many of them I encountered had decrees in things that really didn't help their employability -- like art history or fashion design, or archaeology. Not that those degrees and liberal arts degrees do not have any value, but their value is only in very limited fields, and are not very applicable in the everyday 21st century workplace. I believe millennials were given unrealistic expectations as to what college or university educations would guarantee them in this day and age. Problems is: the market became glutted with young people with 'general arts' degrees that employers didn't highly value. Many would have been better off taking specific trades (plumbing, electrician, welding, carpentry, etc.) through trade schools or apprentice programs. Liberal Arts degrees these days are a luxury for the rich, so far as I'm concerned.
My son graduated in 1989 with a 4-year Commerce Degree, majoring in Management, a smart choice that gave him a lot of specific job-related skills. Even so, the job market was tight at that time and he ended up in retail management as a trainee, not his preferred area (banking).
My grandson is in his first year at college, studying IT (information technology), all things computer-related. This teaches concrete skills relevant to today's work world. Hopefully it will lead to employment that allows him to support himself.
I feel empathy/sympathy for millennials & those who come after. They face an uncertain world in so many ways.
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