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Post by The Inspector on Dec 28, 2018 22:09:57 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/orourke-rips-trumps-border-wall-in-video-a-symbol-of-division/ar-BBRxHI5"The southern border already has over 600 miles of wall and fence. And since 2007, the undocumented population has grown more through visa overstays than unauthorized border crossings. We need realistic immigration reform, not a symbol of division," the video concludes.
It about time someone pointed out the real shortcoming of tramp's fantasy wall that fixes all.
Undocumented population has grown more through visa overstays. and many are not from Mexico.
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Post by suds00 on Dec 29, 2018 11:36:38 GMT -5
i thought that it has been shown to be logistically impossible to build a wall across the southern border due to treaties.property rights,land barriers,etc.
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Post by tnthomas on Dec 29, 2018 12:06:42 GMT -5
i thought that it has been shown to be logistically impossible to build a wall across the southern border due to treaties.property rights,land barriers,etc. I've heard the same, there is a lot of privately held ranch property right on the border where the U.S. gov't would have to declare eminent domain to acquire the land in order to even begin design and planning.
I'm willing to bet those properties(particularly in AZ & Tex) are held by well-to-do Republicans that would balk at the idea. Too bad Trump couldn't find a way to get the Democrats to 'own' the wall, that would go down
so much better with the GOP constituency there.
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Post by butterfly on Dec 30, 2018 0:54:27 GMT -5
i thought that it has been shown to be logistically impossible to build a wall across the southern border due to treaties.property rights,land barriers,etc. I've heard the same, there is a lot of privately held ranch property right on the border where the U.S. gov't would have to declare eminent domain to acquire the land in order to even begin design and planning.
I'm willing to bet those properties(particularly in AZ & Tex) are held by well-to-do Republicans that would balk at the idea. Too bad Trump couldn't find a way to get the Democrats to 'own' the wall, that would go down
so much better with the GOP constituency there.
Some of it is tribal lands. That'll REALLY cause a fuss. I dunno how that would work, even, but I'll bet the Tribal Courts will just LOVE it. First the US forces the tribes onto reservations and then decides to take land back to build a big fat wall on it???
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Post by Kady on Dec 30, 2018 7:47:46 GMT -5
There is no rationalizing with crazy....he is now threatening to close the border completely down..this will add to our already unstable economy.
If we EVER get rid of this incompetent fool, I hope congress lay down some laws that will prevent this in the future.
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Post by Bob on Dec 30, 2018 10:50:09 GMT -5
This entire sorry episode is more about POTUS trying to keep a promise to his base, which increasingly looks like another empty one. He wants something he can physically point to, take pictures of and say to his rabid supporters, "See this? I built this. No one thought I'd do it, but I got the Dems to cave and I've made you safe and secure." His campaign slogan "Promises Made, Promises Kept" will go to "Promises Made, Promises almost kept, but that mean Nancy Pelosi wouldn't give me what I wanted!" Not sure that will fit as neatly on a sign.
Seriously though, it's really pathetic to see how he's acting here. The memes showing our president as a wailing child throwing a temper tantrum are appropriate. He looks increasingly desperate and digging in. While I hate that federal workers are being used as pawns here, I think it's critical that the soon-to-be Speaker not give in until she is in power. Then we'll see how quickly things get resolved. Trump loves digging in for a fight and now he's got one. Sadly, many innocent people are going to get hurt over partisan politics, and no doubt many are the very people who put this national embarrassment into office.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 12:41:30 GMT -5
45 cares about nobody but himself. His name will be stamped all over the wall if he is allowed to build it. His next step will be to order a 5th Presidential head be carved on Mt. Rushmore ..... his! ![](https://i.postimg.cc/T3Ng3dXb/greenscary.gif)
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