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Post by Drifter on Aug 18, 2023 12:28:43 GMT -5
oldmontana Do you realize Maddow is an Independent. Not a republican or a Democrat, but an Independent just like you say you are. Does that mean you lie too? Her education: Lincoln College Oxford, Ph.D., Lincoln College Oxford, M.A., Stanford University, B.A. Can you top that?
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Post by birdgal on Aug 18, 2023 15:39:15 GMT -5
She never said she is the greatest. She is though. There I said it. One more time with feeling. Rachel Maddow is the greatest!
Do I detect a little bit of jealously or envy or maybe even a crush coming from the poster?
She is a brilliant and attractive woman. She takes her job seriously, enjoys her work and strives to get it right. Is she perfect? Almost! :)
If you don't like her show why watch it? I never watch fox. Can't do it. I just can't do it.
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Post by notbob on Aug 18, 2023 17:18:58 GMT -5
Yes, the post is about MSNBC's Rachael Maddow having a conversation with Hillary Clinton about Trump's alleged illegal activities. You called Maddow a liar, yet you never acknowledge Trump's lies, or the lies FOX News spreads through their prime-time hosts. That's what makes FOX News relevant to your argument. Maybe Rachael deliberately lied, or maybe she made a mistake. When she makes a mistake, she often owns up to it and corrects it. For example: "I thought when we reported last night that while he was president, he had actually never told Americans to get vaccinated," Maddow said March 2. "It turns out he did say, in one tweet in December, that everybody should get their shots." But for the sake of argument, let's say Rachael Maddow is a liar. Let's see how she compares to FOX News hosts: Hannity Ingraham Watters Gutfeld Maddow
There ya go. Rachael doesn't lie nearly as often as FOX News prime-time hosts, nor does she tell the level of fully false lies (mostly true, half true and mostly false), yet you never criticize FOX News or its hosts. In addition, you spew the same lies as FOX News hosts right here, and when called out on your lies, you defend your them by at best, denying the truth, and at worst, adding more lies or trying to change the subject all together. In regard to your "wishful thinking" comment, you're damn right. FOX News has paid 3/4 of a billion dollars and they'll pay more in the future. I would love nothing better than to see FOX News run out of business from liable suits. They lied in an attempt to overturn a legitimate presidential election, they called an insurrection a peaceful demonstration, and they tried to negate legitimate votes cast by thousands of Americans denying the will of the people. I see their actions as treasonous. And again, I don't recall MSNBC or Rachael Maddow losing any major liable suits, yet here you are, bitching about her while following the same lines as Hannity, Ingraham, Watters, and Gutfeld. Another long-winded your opinion rant about Trump and FOX. FYI I posted some of the lies that Rachael (Iam the greatest) Maddow made. She is on the radical left of left MSNBC. That wasn't my "opinion." I used the same source as you to make a comparison between Maddow and FOX News hosts - seems only fair. You b*tch about Maddow while spewing the same BS as FOX news hosts. That's not opinion. That is a fact, and most everyone here has been trying to tell you that for a long time. You might be correct when you say Maddow is on the radical Left, but you don't even know what the radical Left stands for. You're so steeped in your arrogant self-righteousness, you stubbornly stand for the Right even when it is blatantly wrong. Apparently, you like the idea of the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet having the ability to manipulate elections by funneling money into political campaigns where politicians must cast votes that favor the wealthiest people and corporations. The radical Left relies on small donor funding for their campaigns. They're not owned. Their only obligation is to the masses. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one. The Right consistently votes for tax breaks and deregulation that favors the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet. The radical Left wants to funnel tax dollars back into our social structure - education, infrastructure, healthcare, seniors, vets, the poor, etc. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right has gerrymandered red states which takes power away from individual voters to have equal representation. The radical Left wants to dismantle the Electoral College which would eliminate anyone's chances to take individual's equal representation away. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to take away the right of women to have control over their own bodies. Again, the Right is the radical one and state referendums are proving it. The Right has denied women of equal pay for equal worm. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to deny members of the LGBTQ+ community the right to marry who they love, to perform shows in public, the make purchases where heterosexual people buy stuff, and to compete in athletics despite the fact that they are citizens of the USA and should be entitled to the same rights as everyone else regardless of sexual orientation. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. This is all the same sh*t we've been trying to pound into your numb skull for years. You will never get it, not because it doesn't make sense, but because you're not smart enough to understand the notion of equal rights or fairness, and the fact that "trickle-down" has never worked and it never will. Obviously, you're not smart enough to understand.
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 18, 2023 17:40:40 GMT -5
oldmontana Do you realize Maddow is an Independent. Not a republican or a Democrat, but an Independent just like you say you are. Does that mean you lie too? Her education: Lincoln College Oxford, Ph.D., Lincoln College Oxford, M.A., Stanford University, B.A. Can you top that? Her education. No, I can't top that, can you? Does that mean you lie too? I have. Do you lie? Why are you trying to make this about me? She can say she is an independent, but I think she would not be on MSNBC if she did not promote the Democratic party and bash the Republican party. Just like Nicolle Wallace, Joy Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell and Koe Scarborough do.
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 18, 2023 17:46:33 GMT -5
Another long-winded your opinion rant about Trump and FOX. FYI I posted some of the lies that Rachael (Iam the greatest) Maddow made. She is on the radical left of left MSNBC. That wasn't my "opinion." I used the same source as you to make a comparison between Maddow and FOX News hosts - seems only fair. You b*tch about Maddow while spewing the same BS as FOX news hosts. That's not opinion. That is a fact, and most everyone here has been trying to tell you that for a long time. You might be correct when you say Maddow is on the radical Left, but you don't even know what the radical Left stands for. You're so steeped in your arrogant self-righteousness, you stubbornly stand for the Right even when it is blatantly wrong. Apparently, you like the idea of the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet having the ability to manipulate elections by funneling money into political campaigns where politicians must cast votes that favor the wealthiest people and corporations. The radical Left relies on small donor funding for their campaigns. They're not owned. Their only obligation is to the masses. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one. The Right consistently votes for tax breaks and deregulation that favors the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet. The radical Left wants to funnel tax dollars back into our social structure - education, infrastructure, healthcare, seniors, vets, the poor, etc. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right has gerrymandered red states which takes power away from individual voters to have equal representation. The radical Left wants to dismantle the Electoral College which would eliminate anyone's chances to take individual's equal representation away. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to take away the right of women to have control over their own bodies. Again, the Right is the radical one and state referendums are proving it. The Right has denied women of equal pay for equal worm. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to deny members of the LGBTQ+ community the right to marry who they love, to perform shows in public, the make purchases where heterosexual people buy stuff, and to compete in athletics despite the fact that they are citizens of the USA and should be entitled to the same rights as everyone else regardless of sexual orientation. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. This is all the same sh*t we've been trying to pound into your numb skull for years. You will never get it, not because it doesn't make sense, but because you're not smart enough to understand the notion of equal rights or fairness, and the fact that "trickle-down" has never worked and it never will. Obviously, you're not smart enough to understand. Another personal attack. This one reported.
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Post by notbob on Aug 18, 2023 21:38:16 GMT -5
That wasn't my "opinion." I used the same source as you to make a comparison between Maddow and FOX News hosts - seems only fair. You b*tch about Maddow while spewing the same BS as FOX news hosts. That's not opinion. That is a fact, and most everyone here has been trying to tell you that for a long time. You might be correct when you say Maddow is on the radical Left, but you don't even know what the radical Left stands for. You're so steeped in your arrogant self-righteousness, you stubbornly stand for the Right even when it is blatantly wrong. Apparently, you like the idea of the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet having the ability to manipulate elections by funneling money into political campaigns where politicians must cast votes that favor the wealthiest people and corporations. The radical Left relies on small donor funding for their campaigns. They're not owned. Their only obligation is to the masses. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one. The Right consistently votes for tax breaks and deregulation that favors the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet. The radical Left wants to funnel tax dollars back into our social structure - education, infrastructure, healthcare, seniors, vets, the poor, etc. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right has gerrymandered red states which takes power away from individual voters to have equal representation. The radical Left wants to dismantle the Electoral College which would eliminate anyone's chances to take individual's equal representation away. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to take away the right of women to have control over their own bodies. Again, the Right is the radical one and state referendums are proving it. The Right has denied women of equal pay for equal worm. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to deny members of the LGBTQ+ community the right to marry who they love, to perform shows in public, the make purchases where heterosexual people buy stuff, and to compete in athletics despite the fact that they are citizens of the USA and should be entitled to the same rights as everyone else regardless of sexual orientation. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. This is all the same sh*t we've been trying to pound into your numb skull for years. You will never get it, not because it doesn't make sense, but because you're not smart enough to understand the notion of equal rights or fairness, and the fact that "trickle-down" has never worked and it never will. Obviously, you're not smart enough to understand. Another personal attack. This one reported. Thank you.
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 19, 2023 8:15:10 GMT -5
She never said she is the greatest. She is though. There I said it. One more time with feeling. Rachel Maddow is the greatest! Do I detect a little bit of jealously or envy or maybe even a crush coming from the poster? She is a brilliant and attractive woman. She takes her job seriously, enjoys her work and strives to get it right. Is she perfect? Almost! :) If you don't like her show why watch it? I never watch fox. Can't do it. I just can't do it. "She never said she is the greatest." Her actions indicate to me that she thinks she is the greatest. I see her from her actions and what she is promoting. Why I watch her. I watch her enough to see what she is about. I like to hear what all the networks are saying. It keeps me informed so I can make an intelligent decision on issues that are important to our country. If do not watch FOX you will miss things that are not on other networks. As most or all the networks are left wing. I am thankful that we have one network that is giving us another view.
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Post by notbob on Aug 19, 2023 8:21:30 GMT -5
That wasn't my "opinion." I used the same source as you to make a comparison between Maddow and FOX News hosts - seems only fair. You b*tch about Maddow while spewing the same BS as FOX news hosts. That's not opinion. That is a fact, and most everyone here has been trying to tell you that for a long time. You might be correct when you say Maddow is on the radical Left, but you don't even know what the radical Left stands for. You're so steeped in your arrogant self-righteousness, you stubbornly stand for the Right even when it is blatantly wrong. Apparently, you like the idea of the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet having the ability to manipulate elections by funneling money into political campaigns where politicians must cast votes that favor the wealthiest people and corporations. The radical Left relies on small donor funding for their campaigns. They're not owned. Their only obligation is to the masses. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one. The Right consistently votes for tax breaks and deregulation that favors the wealthiest people and corporations on the planet. The radical Left wants to funnel tax dollars back into our social structure - education, infrastructure, healthcare, seniors, vets, the poor, etc. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right has gerrymandered red states which takes power away from individual voters to have equal representation. The radical Left wants to dismantle the Electoral College which would eliminate anyone's chances to take individual's equal representation away. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to take away the right of women to have control over their own bodies. Again, the Right is the radical one and state referendums are proving it. The Right has denied women of equal pay for equal worm. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. The Right wants to deny members of the LGBTQ+ community the right to marry who they love, to perform shows in public, the make purchases where heterosexual people buy stuff, and to compete in athletics despite the fact that they are citizens of the USA and should be entitled to the same rights as everyone else regardless of sexual orientation. Hmmm, it seems the Right is radical on that one too. This is all the same sh*t we've been trying to pound into your numb skull for years. You will never get it, not because it doesn't make sense, but because you're not smart enough to understand the notion of equal rights or fairness, and the fact that "trickle-down" has never worked and it never will. Obviously, you're not smart enough to understand. Another personal attack. This one reported. Hey oldmontana, did you report this yet? I haven't heard anything about it, so I was wondering...
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 19, 2023 12:21:18 GMT -5
She never said she is the greatest. She is though. There I said it. One more time with feeling. Rachel Maddow is the greatest! Do I detect a little bit of jealously or envy or maybe even a crush coming from the poster? She is a brilliant and attractive woman. She takes her job seriously, enjoys her work and strives to get it right. Is she perfect? Almost! :) If you don't like her show why watch it? I never watch fox. Can't do it. I just can't do it. pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/06/22/judge-rules-rachel-maddows-show-isnt-news-n1456306 Judge Rules Rachel Maddow's Show Isn't News AP Photo/Steven Senne I’ve never actually watched a full episode of Rachel Maddow’s show on MSNBC, but based on the clips I’ve seen, there’s no doubt that it is left-wing propaganda, not news. And a federal judge apparently agrees with that. Journalist Glenn Greenwald reports that an Obama-appointed judge ruled last month that “Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news.” Maddow does not keep her political views a secret, and therefore, audiences could expect her to use subjective language that comports with her political opinions. Thus, Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news. The point of Maddow’s show is for her to provide the news but also to offer her opinions as to that news. While it’s amusing that we can now say a federal judge has ruled that Rachel Maddow’s show isn’t news, the ruling is actually not as amusing as you would think. The ruling was over a 2019 lawsuit from One America News (OAN), which sued Maddow, MSNBC, and its parent corporation, Comcast Corp., for defamation after Maddow claimed on the air, without evidence, that OAN, which she described as “the most obsequiously pro-Trump right-wing news outlet in America,” is “really literally…paid Russian propaganda.” Maddow was reporting on a Daily Beast article that noted an OAN reporter was a “Russian national” who also wrote freelance for the Russian-owned publication Sputnik. The Obama-appointed judge Cynthia Bashant dismissed the defamation lawsuit on the grounds that Maddow’s audience knows she’s hyperpartisan, and thus, as Greenwald put it, that her audience “understands that her show consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true even when she uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them (‘literally is paid Russian propaganda’).” --------------------------------------------------------------------------- She is a radical. She has a disease called egomanic. For that I do feal sorry for her and hope she finds help. egomania is a psychiatric term used to describe excessive preoccupation with one's ego, identity or self and applies the same preoccupation to anyone who follows one’s own ungoverned impulses, is possessed by delusions of personal greatness & grandeur and feels a lack of appreciation.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 19, 2023 13:23:14 GMT -5
Journalist Glenn Greenwald reports that an Obama-appointed judge ruled last month that “Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news.” Maddow does not keep her political views a secret, and therefore, audiences could expect her to use subjective language that comports with her political opinions. Thus, Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news. The point of Maddow’s show is for her to provide the news but also to offer her opinions as to that news. Yes, as your article mentioned, Racheal Maddow's show is understood to be based on HER opinions, and is not being presented as news, unlike FOX has been doing. As such OAN's frivolous lawsuit against Maddow and MSNBC was dismissed.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 19, 2023 13:50:13 GMT -5
Maddow is not a radical by any normal measure, except perhaps by the yardstick of the present day far-right GOP and it's supporting media(FOX, OAN, info-wars, Qanon etc). Here is how Racheal Maddow described her political philosophy in an interview:
"When asked about her political views in 2010 by the Valley Advocate, Maddow replied, "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican Party platform."[74]" LinkShe has a disease called egomanic. For that I do feal sorry for her and hope she finds help. egomania is a psychiatric term used to describe excessive preoccupation with one's ego, identity or self and applies the same preoccupation to anyone who follows one’s own ungoverned impulses, is possessed by delusions of personal greatness & grandeur and feels a lack of appreciation. oldmontana , I strongly suspect that you've made up the "egomanic" allegation yourself, but if you can articulate as to your professional credentials as a mental health care expert then I would be interested in how you arrived at that conclusion.
My take: you're full of hot air, and I seriously don't believe you really feel any empathy or good will toward Racheal Maddow. Furthermore, I suspect that Racheal Maddow knows how to obtain support and counseling for the issues that she does have to struggle with, without any help from you.
I rarely watch Racheal Maddow's show,and don't watch any of the other MSNBC shows, or any opinion driven media because I recognize that they are simply OPINION, which means someone else's ideas and thoughts, which I'm uncomfortable with taking as "gospel". That plus, in the case of Racheal Maddow's ideas and thoughts, I find myself pretty much in complete agreement, which means I know what she'll say, so no need to send time being fed my own view points.
The Republican party has changed drastically, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan are probably rolling over in their graves! But, Eisenhower saw it coming, the demise of the GOP is almost like a fulfillment of prophecy, when Big Business successfully gains complete control of a political party.
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Post by notbob on Aug 19, 2023 15:05:45 GMT -5
She never said she is the greatest. She is though. There I said it. One more time with feeling. Rachel Maddow is the greatest! Do I detect a little bit of jealously or envy or maybe even a crush coming from the poster? She is a brilliant and attractive woman. She takes her job seriously, enjoys her work and strives to get it right. Is she perfect? Almost! :) If you don't like her show why watch it? I never watch fox. Can't do it. I just can't do it. pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/06/22/judge-rules-rachel-maddows-show-isnt-news-n1456306Judge Rules Rachel Maddow's Show Isn't News AP Photo/Steven Senne I’ve never actually watched a full episode of Rachel Maddow’s show on MSNBC, but based on the clips I’ve seen, there’s no doubt that it is left-wing propaganda, not news. And a federal judge apparently agrees with that. Journalist Glenn Greenwald reports that an Obama-appointed judge ruled last month that “Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news.” Maddow does not keep her political views a secret, and therefore, audiences could expect her to use subjective language that comports with her political opinions. Thus, Maddow’s show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news. The point of Maddow’s show is for her to provide the news but also to offer her opinions as to that news. While it’s amusing that we can now say a federal judge has ruled that Rachel Maddow’s show isn’t news, the ruling is actually not as amusing as you would think. The ruling was over a 2019 lawsuit from One America News (OAN), which sued Maddow, MSNBC, and its parent corporation, Comcast Corp., for defamation after Maddow claimed on the air, without evidence, that OAN, which she described as “the most obsequiously pro-Trump right-wing news outlet in America,” is “really literally…paid Russian propaganda.” Maddow was reporting on a Daily Beast article that noted an OAN reporter was a “Russian national” who also wrote freelance for the Russian-owned publication Sputnik. The Obama-appointed judge Cynthia Bashant dismissed the defamation lawsuit on the grounds that Maddow’s audience knows she’s hyperpartisan, and thus, as Greenwald put it, that her audience “understands that her show consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true even when she uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them (‘literally is paid Russian propaganda’).” --------------------------------------------------------------------------- She is a radical. She has a disease called egomanic. For that I do feal sorry for her and hope she finds help. egomania is a psychiatric term used to describe excessive preoccupation with one's ego, identity or self and applies the same preoccupation to anyone who follows one’s own ungoverned impulses, is possessed by delusions of personal greatness & grandeur and feels a lack of appreciation. Rush Limbaugh used to say all the time that his show wasn't a news show. It was a show about what he thought. The same is true of all cable news, podcasts, and radio shows of this kind. In reviews, these kinds of shows are listed as "news analysis." I'm surprised you didn't know that. Perhaps, if you did a better job educating yourself on such things, you wouldn't single out one show to support your BS.
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Post by oldmontana on Aug 19, 2023 15:43:43 GMT -5
Maddow is not a radical by any normal measure, except perhaps by the yardstick of the present day far-right GOP and it's supporting media(FOX, OAN, info-wars, Qanon etc). Here is how Racheal Maddow described her political philosophy in an interview:
"When asked about her political views in 2010 by the Valley Advocate, Maddow replied, "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican Party platform."[74]" LinkShe has a disease called egomanic. For that I do feal sorry for her and hope she finds help. egomania is a psychiatric term used to describe excessive preoccupation with one's ego, identity or self and applies the same preoccupation to anyone who follows one’s own ungoverned impulses, is possessed by delusions of personal greatness & grandeur and feels a lack of appreciation. oldmontana , I strongly suspect that you've made up the "egomanic" allegation yourself, but if you can articulate as to your professional credentials as a mental health care expert then I would be interested in how you arrived at that conclusion.
My take: you're full of hot air, and I seriously don't believe you really feel any empathy or good will toward Racheal Maddow. Furthermore, I suspect that Racheal Maddow knows how to obtain support and counseling for the issues that she does have to struggle with, without any help from you.
I rarely watch Racheal Maddow's show,and don't watch any of the other MSNBC shows, or any opinion driven media because I recognize that they are simply OPINION, which means someone else's ideas and thoughts, which I'm uncomfortable with taking as "gospel". That plus, in the case of Racheal Maddow's ideas and thoughts, I find myself pretty much in complete agreement, which means I know what she'll say, so no need to send time being fed my own view points.
The Republican party has changed drastically, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan are probably rolling over in their graves! But, Eisenhower saw it coming, the demise of the GOP is almost like a fulfillment of prophecy, when Big Business successfully gains complete control of a political party.
You said.. "I re-watched these video clips, I absolutely love to watch Rachael Maddow methodically analyze complex legal/political material with her notable educated & keen intellect. Her emotions are evident, this is serious business, and she genuinely fears for the future of this nation...as should we all." I see you are, along with your two buddies that are the ones full of hot air.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 19, 2023 16:39:54 GMT -5
You said.. "I re-watched these video clips, I absolutely love to watch Rachael Maddow methodically analyze complex legal/political material with her notable educated & keen intellect. Her emotions are evident, this is serious business, and she genuinely fears for the future of this nation...as should we all." I see you are, along with your two buddies that are the ones full of hot air. Well your reading and your copy 'n paste skills are improving, but you only actually just said pretty much...nothing.
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Post by 2old on Aug 19, 2023 18:05:08 GMT -5
That statement would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic, coming from someone who's very brain cells are regularly bathed in FOX news filth that spends every last little effort in dividing and destroying the very fabric of our nation. Thank you for your permission and blessing, Rachael Maddow is brilliant at so many levels that you could never understand. www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=rachel-maddowLATEST FACT-CHECKS ON RACHEL MADDOW Rachel (I am the greatest) Maddow and some of her lies. I say you have been had are so many on left wing and you seem to do not care. In the respect to her being brilliant, she is when it comes to twisting the news to her likings. I understand and saying I do not is so typical of your BS about me. Always good for a laugh, thanks! The link you provided covers the period from 2009 thru 2021. Let's see. That's 12 years of full time primetime tv and they only came up with 13 "False" or "Mostly False"?? Sounds pretty good to me when you have a crew of IT people putting together a script from news outlets across the globe. It is understandable that you might envy Maddow's intelligence. You might have an issue with any woman being significantly more intelligent that a male. For some males, that can be a pretty low bar. The topic being Maddow's interview with Clinton is what we should be discussing. Not demeaning the intelligence of a documentable near intellectual genius. My memory may be fading in my old age, but I don't remember 2 years of filing litigation trying to overturn the 2016 election. I don't remember Clinton suggesting... then applauding... an attack on the Capitol of the United States. I don't remember Clinton calling Attorneys General of more than one state in an attempt to get them to falsify vote counts. For the record, Clinton is also quite educated and extremely intelligent. She cares about the Country, not just her own ego as does the former guy. Clinton has served this Nation in many roles and never asked for people to bow at her feet. The former guy has... for his entire life... only served himself. What struck me about the interview was Clinton stating she didn't believe the former guy's indictments should be celebrated or laughed about. She noted his criminal past is a blight on the history of our Nation. It's nothing to joke about. Consequences must be meted. If an attack on Democracy as was dealt by the former guy and his allies is excused, Democracy is dead. It will be copied by another and the coup that failed in 2021 will succeed next time. If... the thought haunts me... the former guy would be reelected in 2024, that also would see the defeat of Democracy. He has already stated he would clean house in the government of any who would not pledge their loyalty to HIM, not to the Constitution. He has stated he, alone., would rewrite the Constitution. He has stated he was the "apple of the eye" of Putin. It was a great interview, much of which will be replayed numerous times. Two extremely intelligent people with long histories of studying or participating in the political arena discussing what will go down as one of the most tragic times in U.S. history.
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