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Post by birdgal on Jul 18, 2022 14:12:23 GMT -5
It seems to be every day there is another madman shooting and killing children and adults. Every damn day!
And yet, there is no mention, not one word, about any sensible gun control or ban.
How long will it take? How many more children/adults will be slaughtered at their desks?
I know all about our right to bear arms. I know all about it. I also know we do NOT have the right to gun down children and teachers in the classroom or any where!
We used to have the right to buy and sell human beings. We kicked and screamed and had a war over that until we realized it was not a good idea. Not at all.
Would you give a burning candle to a 3 year old to play with?
And yet just about anybody can buy a gun or rifle. Background checks you say? No problem. I'll just have my neighbor or my cousin who have squeaky clean backgrounds get them for me. Easy peasy.
Anybody else sick and tired of this? I have more faith in a 3 year old with a candle than I do with demented/deranged grown men with hand guns or rifles.
I know a few women who have guns or rifles for protection. I get that. One of them lived alone in a cabin upstate in NY. Way up.
I don't have the answer to a lunatic going on a killing spree. I don't know how to rid the world of lunatics. Although I do have a few suggestions but I won't post them here. I like this board and don't want to be banned. ;)
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Post by nkat on Jul 18, 2022 21:14:12 GMT -5
When money stops talking.
Nkat
It is the root of all evil.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 19, 2022 11:39:45 GMT -5
True!
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Post by helen on Jul 19, 2022 13:54:12 GMT -5
The problem goes much deeper than gun control.
Question? What is causing so many males to want the attention bought with such a heinous act? Is it the feeling of power, being in charge if only for a moment? Or is it simply the need to be recognize by masses of people; to simply be acknowledged as being a part of the human race?
Females with an overwhelming need for attention can get theirs from social media 'likes' and 'followers' and 'friends' or inappropriate clothing and flirtatious manner. How does a young male leave a lasting memory and why is it so important to some that they do?
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 19, 2022 15:38:51 GMT -5
helen, it's been my observation that males are just poorly socialized, and look to guns and violence to gain the feeling of power.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 19, 2022 17:26:06 GMT -5
There is only one legitimate reason for men and boys to go around killing people. They like killing people. I won't give them an ounce of psychological babble because I don't believe that's the reason they do it. Besides, it gives them an excuse to keep on killing.
Mommy didn't love me enough, daddy never played catch with me, my sister got more attention than I did, and on and on. Give me a break.
Not buying it. Nope. Not at all. They kill people because they are killers.
If we went back to an eye for an eye I think we'd see less killings. You kill.someone, the state kills you. End of discussion. Murderers get books and movies made about them. How sick is that? We have nothing else to write about?
Stop making them the headline. They deserve nothing but jail for life, or take their life and save the taxpayers money.
Enough is too much. Too d*mn much.
I don't buy any of that psycho babble. They kill because they're killers.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 20, 2022 15:03:44 GMT -5
I don't know about that, Tnthomàs.
From where I stand men have a hell of a lot more power than women. They are stronger, they think they are smarter (but they are not), most countries have male leaders. At one time I've heard, not sure if it's true, girl babies were drowned because it was a disgrace to have a baby girl in some cultures.
Most predators are males. More men in prison than women, etc.
A disgrace? Whose body forms babies and presents them to the world?
Gee, I wonder which sex made up that rule? I also wonder how pleased that sex would be if there weren't enough females to go around?
I don't believe they need killing machines to make them feel powerful. How much more power do they need?
Many religions have male gods. Even that's not enough power for them? No. I'm not buying the power thing. I'm sticking with the killing thing instead.
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Post by tnthomas on Jul 20, 2022 18:21:17 GMT -5
it's been my observation that males are just poorly socialized, and look to guns and violence to gain the feeling of power. I don't know about that, . From where I stand men have a hell of a lot more power than women. They are stronger, they think they are smarter (but they are not), most countries have male leaders. At one time I've heard, not sure if it's true, girl babies were drowned because it was a disgrace to have a baby girl in some cultures. Most predators are males. More men in prison than women, etc. A disgrace? Whose body forms babies and presents them to the world? Gee, I wonder which sex made up that rule? I also wonder how pleased that sex would be if there weren't enough females to go around? I don't believe they need killing machines to make them feel powerful. How much more power do they need? Many religions have male gods. Even that's not enough power for them? No. I'm not buying the power thing. I'm sticking with the killing thing instead. I'm just saying that there are a lot of young men who are seriously F'd_up in the head, I don't believe they were born that way, but I could be wrong. However I believe that something major was lacking in their upbringing.
Males are stronger(biological), males tend to be more violent (testosterone-biological) and are also socialized to react with violence as a solution to the world's challenges.
Just for perspective: the overwhelming majority of males do turn out to be intelligent, caring, gentle and considerate people, they just don't often make the news like the damaged ones do.
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Post by birdgal on Jul 21, 2022 11:07:59 GMT -5
Excellent point! You're right. They don't make the news. I knew many caring, loving, and strong men. They are concerned about the environment, they believe in equality, they encourage girls as well as boys to get involved in sports.
When I was younger I worked side by side with guys like that volunteering to pick up litter along the roadways and the shore, donating food to food pantries, visiting Veterans, and a whole lot more.
We belonged to a volunteer group of people who worked for the phone company, The Telephone Pioneers Of America.
You are correct. Guys like that hardly make the news. What does that say about us?
Are we more interested in men who say, "Go ahead, make my day." Or, men who say, "Let me make your day?"
I don't know why some men are violent killers. However, I believe they really do know right from wrong. They, just don't care.
I'm crazy doesn't cut it for me anymore. Yeah, we noticed. Maybe if all men and boys were violent I'd believe they can't help it but I'm sorry, they know it's wrong. I'm tired of paying for their room and board.
They kill because they're killers. A dog that was abused bites one person and he's killed.
That might nip this killing thing in the bud if we tried that with human killers. No prison, no food, water, visitors or exercise. You kill someone the same happens to you.
We would save a lot of money that way and maybe the killers would think twice. If they can think at all.
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Post by The Inspector on Jul 21, 2022 23:49:03 GMT -5
Why some men are violent killers. I believe there is something wrong with their brain. The part of the brain which responds to stimulus does not work right, they need very strong stimulus, too
feel something, killing, rape, and torture, makes them feel something, so feeling something is
better to them, than being empty.
Just a side note, our modern civilization, does not fulfill some needs that help us survive, in more primitive times. I believe the modern conspiracies are filling these needs.
Heroes attacking windmills
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