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Post by The Inspector on Aug 1, 2020 14:00:33 GMT -5
Debate or not to debate
I believe there needs to be at least one debate or Biden looks afraid of tramp.
We know tramp is going to lie so you get ready, for the repeated lies, with a good come back.
It's not a real debate, It's all about how Biden shoots down tramp's repeated lies.
Newsweek logo Supporters Urge Joe Biden Not to Debate Trump, Applaud Hosts for Canceling Over COVID-19 Concerns
Democratic strategists and supporters of Vice President Joe Biden are urging him not to debate President Donald Trump in the lead-up to Election Day, citing Trump's publicity stunts and disregard for the rules in 2016.
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Post by Drifter on Aug 1, 2020 22:49:07 GMT -5
Biden needs to debate trump. Doing so will show trump's lack of cognitive ability. Both will be fact checked in real time. We all know trump lies when we see his lips move.
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Post by The Inspector on Aug 1, 2020 22:56:03 GMT -5
Biden needs to debate trump. Doing so will show trump's lack of cognitive ability. Both will be fact checked in real time. We all know trump lies when we see his lips move. Believe it or not, it seem if tramp repeats lie often enough people seem buy it.
So a pithy reply will win big points.
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Post by 2old on Aug 2, 2020 5:43:26 GMT -5
The ONLY way to have a legitimate debate would be having moderators who would cut off mics when time runs out or when a candidate goes off topic. If Trump is allowed to go off the rails and scream over Biden's comments... cut off his mic. If Trump won't shut up when his time is up... cut off his mic. If he is a allowed to display his usual bully tactics, it will be nothing but a Trump campaign rally. I don't see Trump appearing at a debate that isn't moderated by someone like Hannity. He surely won't agree to a debate moderated by anyone from CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, etc. I just don't see Trump agreeing to debate Biden unless he can be guaranteed an open mic and his staff picking the questions.
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Post by helen on Aug 2, 2020 10:22:35 GMT -5
The ONLY way to have a legitimate debate would be having moderators who would cut off mics when time runs out or when a candidate goes off topic. If Trump is allowed to go off the rails and scream over Biden's comments... cut off his mic. If Trump won't shut up when his time is up... cut off his mic. If he is a allowed to display his usual bully tactics, it will be nothing but a Trump campaign rally. I don't see Trump appearing at a debate that isn't moderated by someone like Hannity. He surely won't agree to a debate moderated by anyone from CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, etc. I just don't see Trump agreeing to debate Biden unless he can be guaranteed an open mic and his staff picking the questions. I agree. Much depends on who moderates and how much control they are given. A debate should be moderated by someone who is unbiased and in Trump's divided world, there is no one.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 2, 2020 13:07:34 GMT -5
If Trump is on the stage in front of a tv camera there will not be a debate. It will be a circus, a side show, between a bully and a gentleman.
If voters have no idea where Biden and the other guy stand on the issues, if they don't know the personality and experience Biden and the other have, I doubt they will even watch a debate.
The choice is between good and evil.
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Post by formerlyme on Aug 2, 2020 15:18:47 GMT -5
I'm somewhat 'on the fence' on this topic.
As stated by others, any debate would require strong moderators who could keep things under control, with time limits enforced by turning off mikes. There should be a rule that each candidate MUST remain behind their podiums at all times. None of that appalling Trump display in 2016 of him stalking around directly behind Clinton while she was addressing the audience (a bully tactic that didn't work).
Despite the stuttering issue that has dogged Biden since childhood, he is still infinitely more articulate and intelligent than Trump, and has impressive experience and knowledge re things like foreign affairs and how government should function in a democracy. With diligent and impartial moderation, I think Biden could trounce Trump in a debate.
On the other hand, maybe Biden doesn't need a debate to beat Trump in November. Yes, Trump uses his job as a platform to spout nonsense and dangerous untruths to please his shrinking 'base'. However, Trump's words and actions, especially this year, have the effect of him 'shooting himself in the foot', demonstrating to many millions how unfit he is for the top job. This can only benefit Biden, debate or no debate!
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Post by birdgal on Aug 2, 2020 15:31:24 GMT -5
If trump is on the stage, in front of tv cameras it will not be a debate. It will be a circus. I have no desire to see a circus. I don't like them.
I hope Biden refuses. I can not believe there are people that are not aware of the difference between these two men.
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Post by The Inspector on Aug 2, 2020 18:33:30 GMT -5
Biden going to have to make tramp look like the clown he is.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 2, 2020 19:00:38 GMT -5
It's not a real debate, It's all about how Biden shoots down tramp's repeated lies. Well we know what Trump's positions will be- lies, destroy Obama's accomplishments...basically evil.
Biden's positions: Honesty & integrity, repairing damage Trump has done...basically Good.
Uh, looks like they don't have much to say to each other.
Here's what concerns me: In 2016 Hillary took the high road and just allowed Trump to browbeat her(remember "crooked Hillary" and "lock her up"?); that made her look weak. I would have preferred it if she(Hillary) had come out from behind her podium and got in Trump's face and told him to go F*ck himself.
Edit: I can see myself voting for AOC, should she run for president in the future. I think the younger folks are not of the mind to take any more BS from the GOP. The Right is busy training a new generation of fascists and white supremacists, I hope the Democrats can muster the drive and determination to counter the threat America faces.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 2, 2020 19:33:54 GMT -5
I would have loved that too, Tnthomas.
However, if she did do that she would have been called a b!tch. Oh, that's right. She already is called a b!tch, a liar, and anything else the Rabid Right can come up with.
And yet, they support a sexual pervert, a sexist, a lying cheating, goofy fool, who has not worked a day in his life. A spoiled rich manbaby who holds up a bible as a prop.
His supporters truly are blind fools. So full of hate for Hillary they simply can not, or will not, see who he really is. The wolf in sheep's clothing their God warned them about.
Open your eyes people that you might see!
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Post by birdgal on Aug 2, 2020 19:57:49 GMT -5
Is there anyone on here who believes Trump will follow the rules? Or, that the mods will cut his mic?
Also, anyone on here who hasn't all ready decided who will get their vote?
Trump lives to be in front of an audience. He will not obey the rules and the mods will not be able to stop him.
It will be The Donald Trump show. I hope the powers that be do not give him this! I hope Biden does not agree to be on that stage with him.
Trump will not obey one rule. He will take over the stage, the debate. Biden will be a gentleman and sadly with a goon on the stage with him it will make him look weak and the goon look strong.
To quote Kenny Rogers you got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away and know when to run.
Trump and supporters don't want a debate. They want a fight, a bloodbath. Please don't give it to them!
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Post by notmydad on Aug 2, 2020 20:01:14 GMT -5
I'd rather see Pence debate Biden's #2, whoever that may be. These are the people who are a heartbeat away from the presidency. How can Pence be an effective leader, if he refuses to meet with a female leader, a la Angela Merkel, behind closed doors? This must be addressed. I want to know how Pence can make objective decisions based on what's good for America, regardless of the religious implications. I doubt he could even perform in a debate with a strong female.
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Post by birdgal on Aug 2, 2020 21:04:10 GMT -5
Another excellent example of why a politician can either leave his superstitions or beliefs out of politics or leave himself out of politics.
I don't give a crap about his superstitions! Pick one. You can't have both. If you refuse to do the job We The People are paying you to do then quit! Leave your religion at the door or leave your position! This is how superstitions like The Taliban and Christianity take over countries. Give them an inch...
BTW, I'm sure you would have been perfectly safe with Merkel. I don't think she'd even notice you. Or, was it your sexual desires that concerned you? Still no worries. She wouldn't stoop that low.
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Post by tnthomas on Aug 2, 2020 23:10:58 GMT -5
I'd rather see Pence debate Biden's #2, whoever that may be. These are the people who are a heartbeat away from the presidency. How can Pence be an effective leader, if he refuses to meet with a female leader, a la Angela Merkel, behind closed doors? This must be addressed. I want to know how Pence can make objective decisions based on what's good for America, regardless of the religious implications. I doubt he could even perform in a debate with a strong female. I continue to be baffled over how the office of the POTUS can be taken by someone that: -isn't required to provide educational background information -doesn't need to have specific training, or have proven employment history -provides no criminal history, no drug testing, not even a driver's license... A minimum wage worker would be required to provide all of the above requirements, for a job that keeps a worker's weekly hours below 30, so no benefits or unemployment insurance.
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