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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 31, 2020 10:27:24 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who is experiencing feelings of sadness.. low motivation, a sense of apprehension like waiting for the other shoe to drop. I was listening to a grief specialist on one of the MSNBC shows and he said all these feelings are symptoms of grief.. and we are all grieving the loss of certainty.. the loss of normalcy.. and the continued fear of what the hell else is going to happen.. We have lost control of our lives in a sense. The virus is in control, along with the madman in the oval office. So whether or not you have been directly or indirectly affected by this plague, we are all feeling a sense of loss and are grieving.. We can help each other through this and I have to believe we will make it through.. But sadly, I don't think any of us will be the same again.
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Post by nkat on Mar 31, 2020 12:58:04 GMT -5
I have noticed that I am not motivated to do anything. Everything that I do seems like a big waste of time to me.
Nkat
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 31, 2020 13:44:52 GMT -5
I have noticed that I am not motivated to do anything. Everything that I do seems like a big waste of time to me. Nkat I'm not either... it all seems so stupid to be doing.. what's the point.. and from what I know, that is a sign of depression. I believe that our entire country is experiencing a depressive episode made even worse with the turmoil of the last three years and the chaos and uncertainty surrounding this administration. It certainly hasn't been a calming time since 2016 and now with the plague upon us it's even harder to cope.
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Post by nkat on Mar 31, 2020 15:39:17 GMT -5
QS, more and more people are coming out and saying that they have already had this. Late in Nov. I had a fever, chills, headache ,the runs, chest congestion and a horrible cough. People are saying their drs did not know what it was. I treated it like bronchitis. Was sick for about a month.
Nkat
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Post by oldmontana on Mar 31, 2020 17:08:44 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who is experiencing feelings of sadness.. low motivation, a sense of apprehension like waiting for the other shoe to drop. I was listening to a grief specialist on one of the MSNBC shows and he said all these feelings are symptoms of grief.. and we are all grieving the loss of certainty.. the loss of normalcy.. and the continued fear of what the hell else is going to happen.. We have lost control of our lives in a sense. The virus is in control, along with the madman in the oval office. So whether or not you have been directly or indirectly affected by this plague, we are all feeling a sense of loss and are grieving.. We can help each other through this and I have to believe we will make it through.. But sadly, I don't think any of us will be the same again. That for the most part is spot on. "The virus is in control, along with the madman in the oval office.".....I think at a time like this, on any time that was on called for.
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Post by highlandannie on Apr 1, 2020 1:17:51 GMT -5
I have noticed that I am not motivated to do anything. Everything that I do seems like a big waste of time to me. Nkat I am getting lazier and lazier. Worrying about my son sucks all my energy, but I was lazy before he got sick. I'm not getting exercise and I know I would feel better if I did. I have a bike to ride outside (but it's cold) and an excercise bike and dumbbells and a mat and ankle weights and I need to use them to feel better. Maybe need to watch less of the news. Go for a walk. Read a mystery. We do escape at night and binge of Netflix or Prime series. And drink beer.
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Post by highlandannie on Apr 1, 2020 2:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by butterfly on Apr 1, 2020 3:40:45 GMT -5
QS, more and more people are coming out and saying that they have already had this. Late in Nov. I had a fever, chills, headache ,the runs, chest congestion and a horrible cough. People are saying their drs did not know what it was. I treated it like bronchitis. Was sick for about a month. Nkat I had a very similar thing earlier this year. I had all that you describe, except the runs. I also had a sore throat, runny nose, no appetite at all, and exhaustion. The cough was the worst I've ever had, and it scared me; I felt like I was going to choke and had some shortness of breath.
I was very sick for about a month and then slowly started to feel better about mid-March. I still do not have all my energy back and I have a lingering cough -- not bad, just is annoyingly there there every once in a while.
I've wondered a time or two if it may have been this virus.
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Post by butterfly on Apr 1, 2020 3:43:05 GMT -5
I have noticed that I am not motivated to do anything. Everything that I do seems like a big waste of time to me. Nkat
Me, too. I get sort of mad at myself for ignoring things that need to be done. I can't seem to get very interested in much of anything.
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Post by butterfly on Apr 1, 2020 4:01:17 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who is experiencing feelings of sadness.. low motivation, a sense of apprehension like waiting for the other shoe to drop. I was listening to a grief specialist on one of the MSNBC shows and he said all these feelings are symptoms of grief.. and we are all grieving the loss of certainty.. the loss of normalcy.. and the continued fear of what the hell else is going to happen.. We have lost control of our lives in a sense. The virus is in control, along with the madman in the oval office. So whether or not you have been directly or indirectly affected by this plague, we are all feeling a sense of loss and are grieving.. We can help each other through this and I have to believe we will make it through.. But sadly, I don't think any of us will be the same again.
I've been feeling the same way. I know I'm grieving my loss of freedom to do simple things like going to the grocery store, etc., without having to worry about catching something lethal and also my loss of being able to be involved with others in everyday life. My neighbor came by to see if I was OK the other day and she stood in the middle of my yard and we hollered at each other about how we were doing, if we needed anything, etc.
I was going to start a Tai-Chi class in April, and a series of lectures about something I am interested in and a couple of other things this spring, but of course they are gone, too.
Then I feel guilty about feeling sad about those things, because I am much better off than a lot of other people. I'm in a safe place, have a roof over my head and food and my health so far, luxuries which so many people now do not have, and I am grateful for all those things but I am still sad and listless.
I agree with you-- I don't think we will ever be the same again.
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Post by highlandannie on Apr 1, 2020 4:20:58 GMT -5
I felt guilty for being upset at having to cancel a couple of trips in April that I was really looking forward to. But I don't feel that way now as I know how lucky we are not to have income affected, or a job loss, or kids staying home from school, and both being healthy.
I will be upset if we have to cancel our Michigan trip in August to see my family. My son's chances of surviving are improving but not guaranteed and I really want to see him.
I am grateful my husband didn't get stuck in Uganda and came home early. This is the 14th day since he's been back. And he's fine.
When my hubby first went to Uganda I got ambitious and totally organized some big drawers in the bedroom, our boxes of travel stuff and the spare room. Cleaned the house really well. But now I'm glued to my chair. However, I have put on my workout clothes and will try to make myself go into my workout room. Our elderly neighbours asked if we could pick up their prescriptions from the doctor's office so hubby hopped on his bike.
I would not handle this well if I was on my own.
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Post by QuickSilver on Apr 1, 2020 6:36:39 GMT -5
Fear, worry and helplessness seem to be the order of the day. Fear of the unknown is the worst kind and the helplessness to do anything about the outcome.. My biggest fear is for my sons.. Both out there as essential workers.. My oldest son may have had the virus, but because no test was available for him, we don't know.. so I still fear for his health.
My younger son (age 47) is married and has three children.. He is out there everyday answering emergency calls for the gas company. The most concerning thing for me is that I have not spoken to his wife in over 10 years.. for reasons I won't go into... So if something happens to my boy.. will I even be notified? Yesterday I talked with him about this very issue.. and he assured me that he has had that conversation with his wife.. and that I would certainly be called.. But who knows.. So that has been on my mind and haunting me.
And then.. highlandannie When you told us about your son, I felt guilty and sad that your son is so ill, and mine had a very mild case if he even had it at all.. I realize none of us has control over who gets sicker or who gets this.. all we can do is stay in the house.. we can't help anyone.. even those we love the most.. and that is so frustrating.
I know I'm not doing myself any favors by sitting in my chair and worrying.. I know I should be up and active, but I can't seem to move. I cook and cook.. and we eat and eat.. and we watch the news and we drink too much wine and too many martinis.. and we are living in a state of inertia. No end in sight at the moment.
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Post by louie on Apr 1, 2020 7:03:33 GMT -5
I was listening to a grief specialist on one of the MSNBC shows and he said all these feelings are symptoms of grief.. and we are all grieving the loss of certainty.. the loss of normalcy.. and the continued fear of what the hell else is going to happen.. We have lost control of our lives in a sense. The virus is in control, along with the madman in the oval office. I've felt much the same and ..very afraid that if I get essential things for our house and farm..that I may bring the virus home which would be a death knell for my husband. My oldest son is working from his home and has been isolated for 3 weeks. He has somewhat adjusted. My youngest hasn't a clue as what to do for himself or wife and kids. They have no money, should have been evicted, and have been going to food banks and anywhere they can find meals. He is taking a job again to try and ease things? Myself? I find that I am flummoxed on certain days as to what to do with myself. I stand at the door and look outside and feel like I am in some sort of daze. What if everyone I love succumbs and I am the only one left because I live on an isolated farm? My saving grace is that I have equine to care for and that keeps me going day by day. I spent 6 hrs yesterday outside getting spring fencing, de-worming, grooming, hoof trimming, and other essentials taken care of. Not once during that time did I feel the outside 'news' pressuring me. It wasn't until after bedtime...then I awakened and couldn't sleep for thinking about COVID-19.
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Post by nkat on Apr 1, 2020 11:55:14 GMT -5
QS, more and more people are coming out and saying that they have already had this. Late in Nov. I had a fever, chills, headache ,the runs, chest congestion and a horrible cough. People are saying their drs did not know what it was. I treated it like bronchitis. Was sick for about a month. Nkat I had a very similar thing earlier this year. I had all that you describe, except the runs. I also had a sore throat, runny nose, no appetite at all, and exhaustion. The cough was the worst I've ever had, and it scared me; I felt like I was going to choke and had some shortness of breath.
I was very sick for about a month and then slowly started to feel better about mid-March. I still do not have all my energy back and I have a lingering cough -- not bad, just is annoyingly there there every once in a while.
I've wondered a time or two if it may have been this virus.
My dd, gd and I all had it. Our so called leader knew about this the latter part of last year. The cough was horrible! nkat
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Post by highlandannie on Apr 1, 2020 12:01:59 GMT -5
Fear, worry and helplessness seem to be the order of the day. Fear of the unknown is the worst kind and the helplessness to do anything about the outcome.. My biggest fear is for my sons.. Both out there as essential workers.. My oldest son may have had the virus, but because no test was available for him, we don't know.. so I still fear for his health.
My younger son (age 47) is married and has three children.. He is out there everyday answering emergency calls for the gas company. The most concerning thing for me is that I have not spoken to his wife in over 10 years.. for reasons I won't go into... So if something happens to my boy.. will I even be notified? Yesterday I talked with him about this very issue.. and he assured me that he has had that conversation with his wife.. and that I would certainly be called.. But who knows.. So that has been on my mind and haunting me.
And then.. highlandannie When you told us about your son, I felt guilty and sad that your son is so ill, and mine had a very mild case if he even had it at all.. I realize none of us has control over who gets sicker or who gets this.. all we can do is stay in the house.. we can't help anyone.. even those we love the most.. and that is so frustrating.
I know I'm not doing myself any favors by sitting in my chair and worrying.. I know I should be up and active, but I can't seem to move. I cook and cook.. and we eat and eat.. and we watch the news and we drink too much wine and too many martinis.. and we are g in a state of inertia. No end in sight at the moment. No need to feel any guilt! I'm happy your son is fine. The son who is sick is the baby and he has my 2 granddaughters. His exwife is a nightmare but she's the one I have to get info from because he listed her as contact. My other son is in TN and is single and is almost 49.
For a couple of days and a night I was sure he would die. OMG. I was thinking how awful for him to die alone with no one he loves there to hold his hand or tell him goodbye. And I wondered if he knew how much I loved him. And then thought about how I couldn't even go to his funeral! FFS I was mess.
He is doing better all the time.
And I have a question for your husband QS. His ventilator was at 60% and his SAT was 96%. Now it's down to 45% and SAT still 96?%. How low do they go before they decide he can be off the ventilator? He still has a fever at night - up to 101.
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