|
Post by nkat on Oct 3, 2019 19:50:55 GMT -5
All my friends that I grew up with went thru these childhood illnesses...we all made it and no one died. My grandgirl was due to get chicken pox vaccine and she came down with CP, we were glad, she made it just fine. I find it senseless to go through an illness when you can prevent it. Some people get mild cases but others severe cases and people did die, esp from the measles! Now if they can invent something against the cold, I would be the first in line. nkat
|
|
|
Post by joymarty on Oct 3, 2019 20:12:43 GMT -5
nkat: I have NOT had a cold/flu in over 20 yrs, thanks to antioxidants: Vit C and Grape Seed Extract, so in my life, it's been invented.
When I found Pyncogenol in 1995, I was 57 or so and my mother was 85 or so, and I got her on it and for 2-3 yrs she had no colds or cold sores and she had them all her life prior. Her old voice got clear and it gives me fond memories of talking to her on the phone and what a difference in her whole sound and being. She died at 91.
|
|
|
Post by butterfly on Oct 4, 2019 0:14:27 GMT -5
I worked in a private school for some years in admissions and knew all the families and the two families who did NOT vaccinate their children had the healthiest kids in the school. These families most likely used holistic meds to keep their children healthy. The one family who's father was an MD had his sweet boy on some heavy duty drugs and I felt so sorry for the child. Just sayin. My daughter who has two children now going on 20 and 23, believes they had so many health issues and infections during their early years as when they were born the huge dosing of vaccines started and the peditrician pushed them all....these little babies shot full of toxins. I had what was needed to get into first grade back in 1940's and that's been it. And had chicken pox, measles and light mumps. I've been pretty healthy all my life.... I had to go through those illnesses also, born before those vaccines were available. TG for the polio vaccine! nkat I had two friends who got polio. One of those was crippled for life and the other was left with respiratory issues. The polio vaccine came out when I was in grade school and my parents saw that my sister and I were among the first to get it here. Polio is an awful thing.
|
|
|
Post by Bob on Oct 4, 2019 17:10:30 GMT -5
Got my flu shot today while visiting the doctor to get my stitches out. I get one each year. I've had at least one year when the shot was less effective and I ended up with a milder case of the flu, but generally it's worked well for me. I can recall a few awful cases of the flu when I was younger and I never want to experience that ever again.
|
|
|
Post by joymarty on Oct 4, 2019 19:02:13 GMT -5
I had to go through those illnesses also, born before those vaccines were available. TG for the polio vaccine! nkat I had two friends who got polio. One of those was crippled for life and the other was left with respiratory issues. The polio vaccine came out when I was in grade school and my parents saw that my sister and I were among the first to get it here. Polio is an awful thing. Polio is a whole other issue. I once dated a fellow who had polio and his one arm is not able to be used, He's a one arm golfer. He's 79 now and got his first bottle of the HGH gel as he's got issues from surgeries and aging.
|
|
|
Post by louie on Oct 5, 2019 17:58:36 GMT -5
I'm getting the shot. My father used to tell me stories of the pandemic that his mother told him as he was born during the 1918 pandemic. Houses in his neighborhood had Quarantined written or boards with that wording on the doors.
His mother would not leave the house with him. People died. Something like 500 million people died from it? I worked in the health care world when the last case of measles broke out in our small area and children were not allowed in school who did not have their vaccinations.
I'm rarely sick either. I attribute it to lots of fresh air year round. I don't do anything special, I don't take supplements, and I am in and out of hospitals and nursing homes quite often. So yes, I am taking precautions for this year. I don't know why I am so lucky when others around me haven't been.
|
|
|
Post by good4nothin on Oct 11, 2019 10:39:21 GMT -5
The chance of dying from the flu, if you are relatively healthy, is tiny. There are all kinds of toxic unnatural ingredients in flu shots. No need to have them injected unless it's really necessary.
I never had a flu shot. I had the flu once or twice, but not in at least 20 years. And whenever I had the flu, it was because I was exhausted from not enough sleep.
Having a real case of the flu, while not fun, gives you real lasting immunity to that strain. Flu shots give only short term immunity.
However, flu shots are important in a way -- they provide ever more huge profits to the drug industry. We wouldn't want the drug industry to suffer.
|
|
|
Post by nkat on Oct 11, 2019 10:51:38 GMT -5
The chance of dying from the flu, if you are relatively healthy, is tiny. There are all kinds of toxic unnatural ingredients in flu shots. No need to have them injected unless it's really necessary. I never had a flu shot. I had the flu once or twice, but not in at least 20 years. And whenever I had the flu, it was because I was exhausted from not enough sleep. Having a real case of the flu, while not fun, gives you real lasting immunity to that strain. Flu shots give only short term immunity. However, flu shots are important in a way -- they provide ever more huge profits to the drug industry. We wouldn't want the drug industry to suffer. Not everyone has the luxury of being well rested at all times. Isn’t the saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? nkat
|
|
|
Post by good4nothin on Oct 11, 2019 11:03:44 GMT -5
The chance of dying from the flu, if you are relatively healthy, is tiny. There are all kinds of toxic unnatural ingredients in flu shots. No need to have them injected unless it's really necessary. I never had a flu shot. I had the flu once or twice, but not in at least 20 years. And whenever I had the flu, it was because I was exhausted from not enough sleep. Having a real case of the flu, while not fun, gives you real lasting immunity to that strain. Flu shots give only short term immunity. However, flu shots are important in a way -- they provide ever more huge profits to the drug industry. We wouldn't want the drug industry to suffer. Not everyone has the luxury of being well rested at all times. Isn’t the saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? nkat It makes MUCH more sense to take care of your health than to rely on artificial pharmaceuticals. Not everyone can always get enough sleep -- I didn't, while in graduate school and that's how I got the flu. But it wasn't the worst thing that ever happened to me, and I got lasting immunity. I never got the flu in the past 20 or so years, whether or not I got enough sleep. The same people who carefully avoid GMOs in food are ok with having GMOs injected into them. Yes, most vaccines have GMO ingredients. And all kinds of other not so nice stuff. It makes sense to be suspicious of the all-out campaigns to get Americans to get more and more vaccines, and to take more and more "preventative" drugs.
|
|
|
Post by joymarty on Oct 11, 2019 12:44:31 GMT -5
Some will not go without their flu shots...it's in their mindsets. THe fact that I had such a horrible flu at 18 could be the reason for the good immunity to it. And to know the Oscillo homeopathic is putting likes in the body possibly does more to build immunity. I use Oscillo at FIRST signs that a flu MAY be coming and it works everytime, I've not had to use it in probably 3 yrs or so.
In retirement, I have time to get good sleep. And I do,
|
|
|
Post by highlandannie on Oct 11, 2019 14:58:59 GMT -5
I am getting my flu jab on Tuesday. Had my pneumonia jab last year and will get my shingles vaccination soon.
When we went to live in Uganda for 2 years we got a lot of vaccinations - can't remember them all but got some for Hep A, Hep B, rabies, encephalitis, typhoid, DPT, yellow fever and quite a few others. I certainly wouldn't turn those down and start popping vitamin pills and grape seed extract and antioxidants thinking they will prevent these dangerous diseases. I also took an anti-malaria tablet every week. Certainly wouldn't trust vitamins to keep me from catching malaria if a mosquito carrying it bit me.
|
|
|
Post by chinadoll1981 on Oct 11, 2019 18:40:39 GMT -5
I take flu shot every year Some of my patients are no always the healthiest individuals and I not wish to catch flu! I never had any adverse reaction to shot and I just feel it is prudent and wise to be prepared I don’t pay for shots they are given out by local hospital and my psychiatrist who work for me arranges for my entire staff to get shots at hospital I have had pneumonia it is no something I want again Doctor recommendations to continue to get flu shot to avoid any complications
|
|
|
Post by joymarty on Oct 11, 2019 20:15:44 GMT -5
Oh, I could care less about the price of shots, our markets even offer shoppers a 10% discount on groceries if they get the shot there...good grief, they are desparate that pharma. I just don't like mercury, aluminum, formalhyde and whatever else is in those shots in the dark. And going out of the country is my last desire...To be jabbed with all those toxins, good grief...but it goes on and on I'm sure.
All of us different and many opposite mindsets.
|
|
|
Post by nkat on Oct 11, 2019 20:43:48 GMT -5
Read that the ingredients in the flu vaccine are very minute. I had the pneumonia vaccine last year,. Need to get the new shingles vaccine, would of not had to get this if I would of had the vaccine against chickenpox, not the disease itself. JoyMarty that is your opinion on the pharmacy being desperate,, I say they do not want a flu pandemic.
Nkat
|
|
|
Post by joymarty on Oct 11, 2019 21:34:45 GMT -5
Oh so much fear, they just want to keep the money flowing to them. And forcing vaccines on anyone is just plain wrong. Having so much cwap in new babies is just plain wrong too, their immune systems haven't even had a good chance to develop. We'll just agree to disagree as we see things differently and that just is what it is.
|
|