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Post by good4nothin on Jul 12, 2019 11:38:26 GMT -5
day, canola oil is pressed from the seeds of the canola plant. Back in the early 70s, canola was derived from a plant called rapeseed. Rapeseed contains a hefty amount of erucic acid, which can be toxic in large amounts – this is where all those rumors came from! While canola and rapeseed plants are related (botanically speaking), they are very different. Canola oil contains virtually no erucic acid. By Dana White There is no such thing as a canola plant. Canola means Canada oil. It is from the rapeseed plant. It goes through a very unnatural process, to remove toxins, etc. Many articles say it is safe, many others say it is very bad for health. In general, any food that goes through a lot of manufacturing and processing is likely to be unhealthy. The idea that canola oil, and other processed vegetable oil, is healthy comes from the misconception that natural saturated fat (such as butter) is a major cause of heart disease. That is not true. The big food companies have successfully promoted canola oil as being healthy, so now it's even in all the processed food in the health store. Because trans fats are now known to be unhealthy, the only cheap alternative for long-lasting processed food is vegetable oil.
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Post by Drifter on Jul 12, 2019 13:35:36 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a canola plant. Canola oil comes from the crushed seeds of the canola plant. Canola is part of the Brassicaceae family. Cabbages, broccoli and cauliflower are also part of this same botanical family.
Each canola plant grows from 3 to 6 feet (1 m -2 m) tall and produces beautiful yellow flowers. As the plant matures, pods form that are similar in shape to pea pods, but about 1/5th the size. Each pod contains about twenty tiny round black or brownish-yellow seeds. link
About 1.7 million acres of Canola Plants are currently grown in the U.S., predominantly in North Dakota, but also in Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Minnesota, Montana, Idaho, Oregon and several other states.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 12, 2019 13:52:30 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a canola plant. Canola oil comes from the crushed seeds of the canola plant. Canola is part of the Brassicaceae family. Cabbages, broccoli and cauliflower are also part of this same botanical family.
Each canola plant grows from 3 to 6 feet (1 m -2 m) tall and produces beautiful yellow flowers. As the plant matures, pods form that are similar in shape to pea pods, but about 1/5th the size. Each pod contains about twenty tiny round black or brownish-yellow seeds. link
About 1.7 million acres of Canola Plants are currently grown in the U.S., predominantly in North Dakota, but also in Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Minnesota, Montana, Idaho, Oregon and several other states.
That's a website that advertises canola oil. I already said that you can find information saying canola oil is healthy, and you can find information saying it is very unhealthy. And I already said that it is unnatural and very processed.
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Post by Drifter on Jul 12, 2019 14:00:51 GMT -5
What's makes you an "expert" on all health issues? MY opinion is that I"m not buying what you are selling.
You cannot assume anyone reading what you post will believe what you wrote. It's not educational, to me, anyway.
Are you telling me you do not or have not, ever, been to a doctor, or taken any prescribed medication, had NO vaccinations as a child, even for small pox and you, yourself, taught yourself what is right or wrong to consume, food wise?
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 12, 2019 14:33:30 GMT -5
What's makes you an "expert" on all health issues? MY opinion is that I"m not buying what you are selling. You cannot assume anyone reading what you post will believe what you wrote. It's not educational, to me, anyway. Are you telling me you do not or have not, ever, been to a doctor, or taken any prescribed medication, had NO vaccinations as a child, even for small pox and you, yourself, taught yourself what is right or wrong to consume, food wise? You aren't making any sense. There are so many people who are skeptical of certain aspects of mainstream medicine. I didn't say I would never use any of it under any circumstances. But a lot of it does more harm than good. People should be skeptical of its promotional campaigns and advertising. It is well known by many, for example, that cholesterol-lowering drugs are over-used and misused and can cause terrible damage.
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Post by joymarty on Jul 12, 2019 16:06:53 GMT -5
And then there are those who question nothing nor question doctors. I question everything TODAY more than ever, everyone has something to sell us and then there is the govt and their lobbys for just about every industry...yes the oil industry too.
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Post by nkat on Jul 12, 2019 16:31:56 GMT -5
There are a lot of people out there questioning things and child hood diseases are running rapid. Of course you question your drugs, they all have side effects. You have to weigh the options. I was on a natural thyroid pill, now on synthetic since the natural pill was too hard to control. My thyroid is doing better on the synthetic.
nkat
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Post by joymarty on Jul 12, 2019 19:04:41 GMT -5
We have totally opposite outcomes, I did horrible on the Syn thyroid, falling over with fatigue and being on Armour and in recent years NT and both these since 2002. I would not touch Syncwap..but they fund medical schools too so docs are beholden to these drug companies, didn't know that one I'll bet. Armour was the very first thyroid med ever if I'm not mistaken and then the synthetics got involved. Long long history and story here.
I learned so much on the thyroid support groups I was a member for some yrs...
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 12, 2019 21:02:43 GMT -5
There are a lot of people out there questioning things and child hood diseases are running rapid.
I guess your point is that no one should ever question the vaccine makers? They should be free to add whatever mystery ingredients they want to their genetically engineered vaccines? Which will be given to babies and young children? And no one should question the medical industry adding more and more vaccines? No one should ever wonder if all vaccines are safe, in all combinations and ever increasing amounts? We should all have blind faith in the FDA and the CDC? After all, they are the experts and we are not. We should let them dictate what vaccines and how many children should get. And if we question them, we are causing children to get "deadly" diseases like measles. People like you make the drug companies very happy.
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Post by formerlyme on Jul 12, 2019 21:16:43 GMT -5
We have totally opposite outcomes, I did horrible on the Syn thyroid, falling over with fatigue and being on Armour and in recent years NT and both these since 2002. I would not touch Syncwap..but they fund medical schools too so docs are beholden to these drug companies, didn't know that one I'll bet. Armour was the very first thyroid med ever if I'm not mistaken and then the synthetics got involved. Long long history and story here. I learned so much on the thyroid support groups I was a member for some yrs... Why must you persist in using rude fake names for Synthroid? I find that childish!
You should know that Armour is made from dessicated animal thyroid glands (usually those of pigs) and is very unpredictable and uncontrollable so far as safety and dosage is concerned. How do you know whether some of those pig thyroids might have come from diseased animals? There is no such concern with Synthroid. You should know that it takes three or more weeks before starting on Synthroid to feel the benefits. Perhaps you were simply too impatient?
I've taken Synthroid for decades, and was at one time a member of the Thyroid Foundation of Canada. It is safe, beneficial, quite cheap, and without side effects if given in the proper dosage (verified through TSH blood tests).
Some advocates of naturopathy come across as almost cult-like, and too danged preachy for my liking.
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Post by Drifter on Jul 12, 2019 21:44:06 GMT -5
And then there are those who question nothing nor question doctors. Who?
Anyone, that has a good rapport with their physician, will communicate well with them and come up with the right plan of action for their medical needs! Common sense prevails. If one is not happy with their physician, they find another one....not go to the internet to self diagnose every single issue or take a forum posters opinion as a better alternative.
Posters on these boards are adults with numerous professional backgrounds. It would be difficult to surmise one in a health related field to buy into alternative facts.
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Post by good4nothin on Jul 12, 2019 22:01:20 GMT -5
And then there are those who question nothing nor question doctors. Who?
Anyone, that has a good rapport with their physician, will communicate well with them and come up with the right plan of action for their medical needs! Common sense prevails. If one is not happy with their physician, they find another one....not go to the internet to self diagnose every single issue or take a forum posters opinion as a better alternative.
Posters on these boards are adults with numerous professional backgrounds. It would be difficult to surmise one in a health related field to buy into alternative facts. It is very common for people to be interested in alternative medicine, and to be skeptical of mainstream medical doctors. We have very good reasons for our skepticism. Mainstream medicine can be good if you need surgery or drugs, or diagnostic technology. But for many problems, it is not very good and can be very bad. I do not agree with you that only medical doctors are qualified to think about health. They are trained in a certain way, and most of them think in a certain way. If we prefer a natural holistic approach (for anything that does not require drugs or surgery), then trying to communicate with a medical doctor will only lead to frustration. For example, if you have problems involving the immune system, mainstream medical doctors have nothing to offer except steroids or immune-suppressing drugs. They will never try to help you figure out the cause. If you would rather figure out the cause, instead of taking drugs that will destroy your health instead of restoring it, then you must do the hard work of reading and thinking for yourself. People are capable of reading and thinking, even if they are not medical doctors. What makes you believe we don't have the same basic abilities as people who become medical doctors? Before there was a public internet, I got my information from libraries. I have been reading and thinking all my life. I know how to be skeptical and I know we can't simply believe things just because someone wrote them. Now we have access to enormous amounts of information and we can compare different opinions. It is challenging, but we are better off now.
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Post by joymarty on Jul 12, 2019 22:32:40 GMT -5
Armour has been around for probably 100 yrs give or take. And many on Syn do much better once they get off it and on desiccated.
Those who do fine on Syn, that is just great. I gave it a little chance and found myself falling over with fatigue.
I went 10 yrs with a major depression and went from doctor to doctor and told "your thyroid is fine", here are more A/D drugs...so basically shut up and take the drugs. I had a gut feeling it was a sluggish thyroid and the "numbers" said I was fine as did the docs...I knew I was not..
Then finally my then D.O. in 2002 after talking to him about thryoid called in for Armour, no labs, nadda and within 4 days the depressionn lifted, never to return..he knew, he was an old time doc and before labs they gave patients theraputic doses of Armour and up dosed as the patients reported back with progress and lack of the symptoms they came in with.
There are some 66 symptoms of HypoT and depression is right up there. And we are not numbers. Desiccated thyroid supported saved me as did the great D.O. who worked on my back for some 30 yrs...I never thought to discuss thyroid with him as I trusted the endo docs etc...ha...
Many of us have stories unlike many others with their stories.
I ended up in the ER with a stomach ulcer in the 80's due to an allopathic drug and that began my search for a more holistic type MD and that's when I found integrative MD's...our town has many of them...they seem to flock West. I see only integrative MD's...they first work on healing holistically and if all that fails will go with a drug(s).
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Post by nkat on Jul 12, 2019 23:08:53 GMT -5
There are a lot of people out there questioning things and child hood diseases are running rapid.
I guess your point is that no one should ever question the vaccine makers? They should be free to add whatever mystery ingredients they want to their genetically engineered vaccines? Which will be given to babies and young children? And no one should question the medical industry adding more and more vaccines? No one should ever wonder if all vaccines are safe, in all combinations and ever increasing amounts? We should all have blind faith in the FDA and the CDC? After all, they are the experts and we are not. We should let them dictate what vaccines and how many children should get. And if we question them, we are causing children to get "deadly" diseases like measles. People like you make the drug companies very happy. So you do not believe in vaccinations? So glad that I had the polio vaccine. That strain going around recently paralyzing children was thought to be related to the polio strain. I guess it is better to put children in an iron lung then give them a nasty shot! i wished that I had some of those vaccines when I was younger not having to go through those illnesses, many leading to more harsh illnesses. nkat
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Post by Drifter on Jul 13, 2019 7:59:04 GMT -5
I do not agree with you that only medical doctors are qualified to think about health. They are trained in a certain way, and most of them think in a certain way. If we prefer a natural holistic approach (for anything that does not require drugs or surgery), then trying to communicate with a medical doctor will only lead to frustration. For example, if you have problems involving the immune system, mainstream medical doctors have nothing to offer except steroids or immune-suppressing drugs. They will never try to help you figure out the cause. Bull!
It's sad that you've had such bad experiences with your doctors. Mine goes above and beyond figuring things out, without drugging someone to death's door.
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