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Post by Drifter on Jun 23, 2018 14:22:31 GMT -5
What if a employee has obtain physician’s certification and has a medical marijuana ID card...would your employer not honor it and terminate you?
As it stands now in our State, it's illegal to possess a firearm and a medical marijuana card. I wonder if that law would change if marijuana would become legal in America. A very good question. I don't know what the answer would be but if I were to venture a guess, I would hedge on the nay side. As you know, most businesses are privately owned and operated. I would assume that it would be determined by each prospective employer as whether or not to accept a candidate even with certification from a physician. But you know all too wel that there are some shady docs out there that for the right price will sign or certify anything.
As far as the laws in our state, I can only assume that the federal government would leave it up to each individual state to determine what legislation would be appropriate to benefit that particular state. If country-wide legalization were to occur, the law(s) would have to be uniform from coast to coast. Yes, it is a good question that no one seems to have an answer to. I'm told it's a grey area. I guess when it comes down to it, someone would probably have to be terminated from their job and challenge it in court.
Think about it...numerous people take prescription drugs with listed side effects to not drive or operate machinery while taking certain drugs. Yet, those prescriptions are written by ones physician and people still are able to keep their job while on them. Would be the same for marijuana, I would think.
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Post by tnthomas on Jun 23, 2018 17:00:38 GMT -5
When California approved recreational use of marijuana we got an email from our warden clarifying the situation: As a California citizen we 'could' use MJ but as an employee of CDCR we better not have any in our possession, or in a blood sample, should it be necessary to provide one.
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Post by Drifter on Jun 23, 2018 18:09:04 GMT -5
When California approved recreational use of marijuana we got an email from our warden clarifying the situation: As a California citizen we 'could' use MJ but as an employee of CDCR we better not have any in our possession, or in a blood sample, should it be necessary to provide one. Is that written in the contract or just a verbal warning?
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Post by tnthomas on Jun 23, 2018 18:17:13 GMT -5
When California approved recreational use of marijuana we got an email from our warden clarifying the situation: As a California citizen we 'could' use MJ but as an employee of CDCR we better not have any in our possession, or in a blood sample, should it be necessary to provide one. Is that written in the contract or just a verbal warning? Basically a verbal reminder. As a condition of employment, a person must give their consent in advance to submit to blood and/or urine testing, should a situation warrant such.
Various employee classifications belong to a number unions, and I'd guess that there is language in those union contract agreements that addresses these issues.
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Post by keith on Jun 23, 2018 19:37:03 GMT -5
I wonder how many billions the insurance industry has avoided paying because of "blood samples"? THC stays in the bloodstream for a week and even though it's days since smoking and you aren't under any effects, they say you were...and they aren't libel for any accident you may be involved in. Better read the fine print in your policy.
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Post by butterfly on Jun 23, 2018 22:39:02 GMT -5
I've seen a hell of a lot more bad stuff happen because of alcohol than marijuana. MJ users usually don't cause bar fights, get high and knock their spouse/children around or just up and decide to shoot somebody at a party or on the street just for fun. I've never seen a mean MJ user, but I've seen a lot of mean drunks.
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Post by tnthomas on Jun 24, 2018 11:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by TheSource on Jun 24, 2018 19:25:01 GMT -5
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Post by Fireheart on Jun 24, 2018 21:33:23 GMT -5
I see no issue with pot being legal. I, personally, use CBD on a daily basis for it's health benefits. I understand that CBD is not psychoactive like pot because it either has very low or no THC. Also, I just don't get the "alcohol is ok, but pot is evil" argument. Pot has never killed anyone...alcohol has. Many people tend to get violent when they drink too much...most people who smoke pot just want to chill. I don't understand those who agree with alcohol consumption but disagree with marijuana usage. Marijuana is milder than alcohol and doesn't cause the extreme behavior nor the health consequences that alcohol does. ...and please do not compare pot to other "drugs". It is not even in the same ballpark. It is also completely insane how dangerous many prescription meds are and how many side effects they have....yet they are readily available while marijuana or even CBD (that can treat many of the same health problems with very minimal side effects)is looked at as though it is sooo bad simply because the government made it "illegal". The reason that it is illegal is not because it is dangerous, but because it can easily be grown and will cut down drastically on the pharmaceutical industry's profits. Don't believe me? If it is so bad then why is big pharma. currently working so hard to develop their own marijuana meds?
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Post by tnthomas on Jun 24, 2018 22:15:42 GMT -5
It's been my observation that in pursuit of the "war on drugs" the DEA targeted imported MJ initially because quite frankly, being
bulky and easy to detect, it was the 'low hanging fruit', an easy success by which to gain positive recognition. However, judging
by the timing of events, it is my belief that drug cartels shifted to higher value trade, like cocaine and later on Methamphetamine. The unfortunate consequence of this chain of events resulted in very dangerous drugs flooding into society, where before was the
very much less problematic marijuana trade.
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Post by butterfly on Jun 24, 2018 23:39:24 GMT -5
I see no issue with pot being legal. I, personally, use CBD on a daily basis for it's health benefits. I understand that CBD is not psychoactive like pot because it either has very low or no THC. Also, I just don't get the "alcohol is ok, but pot is evil" argument. Pot has never killed anyone...alcohol has. Many people tend to get violent when they drink too much...most people who smoke pot just want to chill. I don't understand those who agree with alcohol consumption but disagree with marijuana usage. Marijuana is milder than alcohol and doesn't cause the extreme behavior nor the health consequences that alcohol does. ...and please do not compare pot to other "drugs". It is not even in the same ballpark. It is also completely insane how dangerous many prescription meds are and how many side effects they have....yet they are readily available while marijuana or even CBD (that can treat many of the same health problems with very minimal side effects)is looked at as though it is sooo bad simply because the government made it "illegal". The reason that it is illegal is not because it is dangerous, but because it can easily be grown and will cut down drastically on the pharmaceutical industry's profits. Don't believe me? If it is so bad then why is big pharma. currently working so hard to develop their own marijuana meds? Fireheart, I am looking into using CBD oil myself because of arthritis pain. There are a zillion brands and forms available here (oil, gummies, balms,wax crumbles, capsules, etc.). Do you know of a brand that is reliable, and which form would you suggest? I'd appreciate any suggestions you may have.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 8:44:36 GMT -5
I've seen a hell of a lot more bad stuff happen because of alcohol than marijuana. MJ users usually don't cause bar fights, get high and knock their spouse/children around or just up and decide to shoot somebody at a party or on the street just for fun. I've never seen a mean MJ user, but I've seen a lot of mean drunks. Not to mention the large percentage of traffic "accidents" involving death or serious injury are caused by drunk drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 8:47:23 GMT -5
I suggest you have that ramrod that's stuck up your butt removed. The only thing I have stuck up my butt is your supercilious attitude. If I ever were to try pot I would go with the brownies. And if you ever do, let me know. I have some prime beachfront property for sale in Arizona. lol. Here's something you will like.
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Post by Fireheart on Jun 25, 2018 9:47:12 GMT -5
I see no issue with pot being legal. I, personally, use CBD on a daily basis for it's health benefits. I understand that CBD is not psychoactive like pot because it either has very low or no THC. Also, I just don't get the "alcohol is ok, but pot is evil" argument. Pot has never killed anyone...alcohol has. Many people tend to get violent when they drink too much...most people who smoke pot just want to chill. I don't understand those who agree with alcohol consumption but disagree with marijuana usage. Marijuana is milder than alcohol and doesn't cause the extreme behavior nor the health consequences that alcohol does. ...and please do not compare pot to other "drugs". It is not even in the same ballpark. It is also completely insane how dangerous many prescription meds are and how many side effects they have....yet they are readily available while marijuana or even CBD (that can treat many of the same health problems with very minimal side effects)is looked at as though it is sooo bad simply because the government made it "illegal". The reason that it is illegal is not because it is dangerous, but because it can easily be grown and will cut down drastically on the pharmaceutical industry's profits. Don't believe me? If it is so bad then why is big pharma. currently working so hard to develop their own marijuana meds? Fireheart, I am looking into using CBD oil myself because of arthritis pain. There are a zillion brands and forms available here (oil, gummies, balms,wax crumbles, capsules, etc.). Do you know of a brand that is reliable, and which form would you suggest? I'd appreciate any suggestions you may have. I love CBD honey. I buy it by the 6 oz jar. It usually runs about $28. The brand is "Colorado Hemp Honey". I buy it from a place called The Hemp Farmacy. (Yes, that's the way it's spelled)
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