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Post by chinadoll1981 on May 18, 2018 9:09:21 GMT -5
Life always involves suffering; the cause of suffering is craving and fundamental ignorance.
We suffer because of our mistaken belief that we are only ourselves, a separate “I” whom all things in life revolve around…. craving pleasure, material goods, and the feeling we are invincible all which are desires that can never be satisfied…..
Suffering can end because thinking can be purified with awakened mind.. By living ethically, practicing meditation, and developing wisdom, we too can live as Buddha did …. We can certainly wake up… This is why I believe and understand The Four Noble Truths
Torture of another, for ANY reason… is not ethical nor is it ultimately useful…. To inflict pain on someone deliberately is sadistic and barbarian in nature. Buddhism has core value and belief that all life is sacred and that no one should do harm to another sentient being…ever….. My religion does no accept torture as moral, as our values and beliefs predicate yielding to force rather than hurt another living being. There is simply no basis for torture under any circumstances for Ch’an Buddhist like myself and I can no accept the view that torture is used to help save others or to prevent more atrocities. Jailing someone to punish is one thing… Tearing out fingernails or waterboarding or electrical discharge on genitalia, all of which may I add were the "mild" techniques used by the USA's most favored trading partner, The People’s Republic of China daily to it's own citizens and ironically once a predominately Buddhist nation…. no, you can no convince me under any circumstances that torture is useful or needed.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 10:41:14 GMT -5
Right wingers are not human. They are demons spawned by Satan from the very bowels of Hell. Not that I believe in any of that Heaven or Hell stuff, but if I did, that's what they would be.
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Post by tnthomas on May 18, 2018 11:01:37 GMT -5
I'm joining with you on this, we could create a national organization and call it " Socialists & Democrats supporting torture of right-wing hypocrites".
...where shall we start?
Not funny guys. Civilisation is a thin veneer at the best of times. Don't start scraping it away with this kind of talk.
Not to worry, Toby & I are not likely to be the sole cause of the collapse of genteel society with our little mindless banter.
But, you're right Civilisation is just a thin veneer at the best of times, all the more reason to be prepared for the worst and not shield one's eyes from reality.
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Post by Warrigal on May 18, 2018 16:39:22 GMT -5
In some countries it is thinner than most. Headlines this morning are of the 22nd school shooting in US so far this year. 10 dead, lots of kids wounded.
It would be better if Americans of all political persuasions were able to come together in a civilised manner to talk about this problem and seek an answer to the US death cult mentality that is so prevalent.
People who think differently are not enemies. They are fellow citizens. Do you really want another civil war, because that is what it sounds like from this distance.
And yes, before you bother to respond, I am scolding both of you.
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Post by tnthomas on May 18, 2018 18:27:41 GMT -5
In some countries it is thinner than most. Headlines this morning are of the 22nd school shooting in US so far this year. 10 dead, lots of kids wounded.
It would be better if Americans of all political persuasions were able to come together in a civilised manner to talk about this problem and seek an answer to the US death cult mentality that is so prevalent.
People who think differently are not enemies. They are fellow citizens. Do you really want another civil war, because that is what it sounds like from this distance.
And yes, before you bother to respond, I am scolding both of you. Scold away then, but that's not going to change the realities of what this society has come to be. No body wants a civil war, least of all anyone who has ever been shot at, and had to shoot at others. People who think differently used to be able to talk, and NOT consider each other enemies, but thanks to the relentless efforts of uber-rightwing media ( thanks a lot Australia, for Rupert Murdock) the Nation's political dialogue has been poisoned horribly. How many times can one turn their cheek, when every time they do so gets it slapped yet again? Moderates & centrists & liberals have had enough!
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Post by The Inspector on May 18, 2018 23:33:39 GMT -5
Big money was worked tirelessly to spin US into this mess. Government is bad, taxes are bad, regulations are bad.
How can a bad Government, without income, work to fix things without regulations?
How can you get sane people to work against this undertow of "Big money spin"
All you get are tax cuts and it's likely Government Social programs make more jobs than the tax cuts.
No big money media outlet is going to put any time into reporting on this.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 7:38:37 GMT -5
Do you really want another civil war, because that is what it sounds like from this distance. I respectfully decline to answer that question on the grounds that my answer might result in me getting a visit from Homeland security.
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Post by tnthomas on May 19, 2018 13:08:32 GMT -5
Do you really want another civil war, because that is what it sounds like from this distance.
Of course not, but surely you must sense the frustration.....
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