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Post by suds00 on Mar 29, 2018 17:03:42 GMT -5
i read today from a credible source that there is more evidence tying the trump campaign to russian collusion in the 2016 campaign.trump may be able to use the power of the pardon to make it difficult for the investigation to find him personally guilty.however it is my hope that this will so weaken his presidency so as to make it impossible for him to do much of anything for the remaining 2 plus years.
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Post by nkat on Mar 29, 2018 18:18:37 GMT -5
I can only hope!
NKat
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Post by TheSource on Mar 29, 2018 19:01:03 GMT -5
...however it is my hope that this will so weaken his presidency so as to make it impossible for him to do much of anything for the remaining 2 plus years. And if this DOES happen, think of the possible ramifications and consequences. It would leave the government in a state of flux and also leave us (America) open and vulnerable.
Working 'with' Mr. Trump and not 'against' him would be a more plausible and amicable course of action. So many people working against him and not willing to compromise and actually sit down and come together will ultimately be America's downfall. I just don't understand the level of hostility being displayed at present. Maybe Toby has it right by saying that some are still 'butt-hurt' about what they thought should be right.
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Post by QuickSilver on Mar 30, 2018 6:26:52 GMT -5
...however it is my hope that this will so weaken his presidency so as to make it impossible for him to do much of anything for the remaining 2 plus years. And if this DOES happen, think of the possible ramifications and consequences. It would leave the government in a state of flux and also leave us (America) open and vulnerable.
Working 'with' Mr. Trump and not 'against' him would be a more plausible and amicable course of action. So many people working against him and not willing to compromise and actually sit down and come together will ultimately be America's downfall. I just don't understand the level of hostility being displayed at present. Maybe Toby has it right by saying that some are still 'butt-hurt' about what they thought should be right. Trump and his disastrous administration NEEDS to be stopped.. It is increasingly likely that Democrats will take the majority in the HOUSE and possibly the SENATE. This will cripple Trump and stop him from further damaging America. Once we take the WH in 2020... this mess can be cleaned up and reversed. It's not a matter of being "BUTT-HURT" Source.. It's a matter of being patriotic and wanting this scourge eradicated.
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Post by Kady on Mar 30, 2018 7:40:37 GMT -5
Yes, we better hope he is stopped for the country's sake....the government is already is a state of flux and chaos...we are already vulnerable when we have a president that alienates other countries and leaders ...the president that causes all this mayhem will be the cause of America's downfall if he is not stopped.
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Post by dragonlady on Mar 30, 2018 12:09:47 GMT -5
There is no "working with" trump. Why would we want to do that when one of his main objectives is to dismantle everything Obama did? He's deliberately appointed people who are trying to gut EPA, consumer protections, etc. To "work with trump" is a one way street to him becoming a quasi dictator at the end. To "work with trump" is to pledge unthinking loyalty and obedience to him.
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Post by notmydad on Apr 2, 2018 8:35:53 GMT -5
I have no problem working with Trump as long as he is willing to do the same. Working with him doesn't mean bowing to every whim and dictate of his. He needs to be willing to negotiate in good faith and compromise instead of expecting everybody to just do as he says.
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Post by formerlyme on Apr 2, 2018 11:13:32 GMT -5
I have no problem working with Trump as long as he is willing to do the same. Working with him doesn't mean bowing to every whim and dictate of his. He needs to be willing to negotiate in good faith and compromise instead of expecting everybody to just do as he says. Trump is a malignant narcissist and a manipulative bully. This is his nature, and unfortunately he is emotionally and mentally incapable of 'playing nicely' with anyone!
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Post by Bob on Apr 2, 2018 17:54:38 GMT -5
Trump is a clear and present danger to our country and the world. Today marks yet another example of this idiot wreaking havoc on the stock markets, and being too ignorant to recognize the harm he's likely inflicting on the very people who supported him in the red states. He's systematically destroying our environment, dividing our country, coddling up to our enemies and taking away protections from our weakest citizens. He must be stopped; there is no working with him.
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Post by TheSource on Apr 2, 2018 21:33:18 GMT -5
It's a matter of being patriotic and wanting this scourge eradicated. Respectfully, explain to me how 'eradication' (of anything) is 'patriotic'?
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Post by The Inspector on Apr 2, 2018 23:49:18 GMT -5
I have seen no willingness of trump to compromise!
The government would just have to everything he wants, just to try and make him happy?
That he wants to do is unacceptable. Do you think he would put up with part of a wall?
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Post by QuickSilver on Apr 3, 2018 6:53:00 GMT -5
It's a matter of being patriotic and wanting this scourge eradicated. Respectfully, explain to me how 'eradication' (of anything) is 'patriotic'? It depends.... if something is destroying our country and our democracy.. as Trump is.. shouldn't he be "eradicated".... Much like Polio and the Bubonic Plague.. no difference IMO
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Post by Kady on Apr 3, 2018 8:28:18 GMT -5
As Bob said....
"Trump is a clear and present danger to our country and the world. Today marks yet another example of this idiot wreaking havoc on the stock markets, and being too ignorant to recognize the harm he's likely inflicting on the very people who supported him in the red states. He's systematically destroying our environment, dividing our country, coddling up to our enemies and taking away protections from our weakest citizens. He must be stopped; there is no working with him."
This is exactly why he needs to go! The damage he is doing is an EVERY day occurrence, something else added to the list all the while Republicans sitting back and doing nothing to stop the disaster....he is indeed destroying our country!
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Post by TheSource on Apr 3, 2018 8:53:48 GMT -5
Respectfully, explain to me how 'eradication' (of anything) is 'patriotic'? It depends.... if something is destroying our country and our democracy.. as Trump is.. shouldn't he be "eradicated".... Much like Polio and the Bubonic Plague.. no difference IMO So what you are proposing is a 'one man genocidal campaign'? Isn't that a bit barbaric?
For years the American people have been screaming for 'change' within the government. Now that the 'change' is here, why are some so upset with it?
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Post by formerlyme on Apr 3, 2018 9:34:22 GMT -5
It depends.... if something is destroying our country and our democracy.. as Trump is.. shouldn't he be "eradicated".... Much like Polio and the Bubonic Plague.. no difference IMO So what you are proposing is a 'one man genocidal campaign'? Isn't that a bit barbaric?
For years the American people have been screaming for 'change' within the government. Now that the 'change' is here, why are some so upset with it? TheSource , perhaps you were taking the word 'eradicated' too literally? Or perhaps it is too melodramatic a word. The term in the thread title is 'neutralize'. I took the intended meaning to be that he needs to be removed from the Presidency where he is creating chaos, instability, and enemies.
In my opinion, most Americans who wanted change were hoping for POSITIVE change, not this nightmarish scenario of Trump's lies, double-talk, divisive rhetoric, and crazy tweets. For me, he revealed himself for what he really is way back during the campaign trail and the debates. He's ruthless, unscrupulous, and crooked as h#ll; why do you think he denied disclosure of his tax records?
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