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Post by Kady on Sept 24, 2019 17:42:37 GMT -5
Pelosi has launched impeachment on Trump after the Ukraine scandal...what a day....have you all been watching?
Many questions come to mind...Will the Whistleblower tell all? Will we get to see him tell all?
How long will this take? Will Trump have a melt down? Will he resign? Will he lie? Lol, we all know that one....huh?
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Post by Kady on Sept 24, 2019 17:58:17 GMT -5
Just read this tweet......
The Senate has *unanimously* agreed to Schumer's resolution calling for the whistleblower complaint to be turned over the intelligence committees immediately.
humm now this makes me nervous.....the senate voted to do the right thing ?????
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Post by louie on Sept 24, 2019 18:01:19 GMT -5
I was just reading about it. He will lie and lie and say he can do anything he wants to.
Or...
he will start a war to distract us.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Sept 24, 2019 18:25:44 GMT -5
The Romans used to crucify their criminals.....just a thought!  |
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Post by Drifter on Sept 24, 2019 18:31:02 GMT -5
How far do we really believe this impeachment inquiry will go? If the full House approves any of the articles, those articles are sent to the Senate for a trial. The House appoints managers to argue the case to the Senate, with the chief justice of the United States presiding. Eventually, Senators vote on whether to convict — that is, remove — the president. Start to finish, the process could take months. The Senate could also refuse to hold a trial. Here's an interesting read about it.... www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/sep/24/How-would-impeachment-inquiry-against/ |
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Post by 2old on Sept 24, 2019 18:57:24 GMT -5
Really disappointed! As Drifter points out, there is no way Trump will be removed by the Senate. Any effort on behalf of the House Democrats will fall on deaf ears... and embolden the Trump base. With the Senate voting unanimously to have the whistleblower complaint turned over to them, someone has leaked to them what is in the complaint... and they are confident Trump will be exonerated.
Everyone will be on the edge of their seats until the complaint is turned over tomorrow. (At least, Trump has promised it will be released tomorrow. Of course we know how well he keeps promises.)
The news release on FB about the impeachment investigation being opened has his base going bonkers. They are screaming! Amazing the expletives I am seeing from them. Will be an even more interesting time in the history of the United States. I hope our country will survive.
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Post by Drifter on Sept 24, 2019 19:05:05 GMT -5
I still say, they should have never thought about impeaching him. Should have let the voters decide at the polls to remove him. After removed, then they could have indicted him on so many of the crimes he has committed, including his family members.
All the hype in the media about this is deafening.
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Post by Kady on Sept 24, 2019 19:30:51 GMT -5
Well ...he may never be removed but the public will know the truth...they will know the Republicans that endorse a crook and they will know those that tried to do the right thing.....it beats doing nothing when we see the President being corrupt every day. with each scandal and catastrophe he pulls and gets by with it the more there will be....there has to be repercussion somewhere.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Sept 24, 2019 19:35:49 GMT -5
I am of two thoughts one is NO ONE is above the law when Mueller put out report there were some 10 instances of obstruction and abuse of power charges and now hiding the whistleblower report just another abuse of power Remember the whistleblower report isn’t JUST about one phone conversation there “multiple” concerns....Giving just the transcripts may play into Trump’s hand no sure if best now. We need to see the complaint too..... My other thought this will strengthen the lunatics in his base which may see Trump as a Martyr of the non-existent “Deep State” conspiracy and get the Criminal a second term!! Instead of rushing ahead....,,perhaps slowly investigating all avenues instead of quick emotional responses might be the correct way to proceed We have a mentally ill president who has taken Republicans hostages with his rhetoric and retaliation on Twitter They scared to make any move in fear he Tweet and they lose elections because of him Privately most Republicans dislike Trump I would imagine but no come out saying so .......They put The Man above Country and Constitution
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Post by formerlyme on Sept 24, 2019 19:46:27 GMT -5
Well ...he may never be removed but the public will know the truth...they will know the Republicans that endorse a crook and they will know those that tried to do the right thing.....it beats doing nothing when we see the President being corrupt every day. with each scandal and catastrophe he pulls and gets by with it the more there will be....there has to be repercussion somewhere.
I agree! It's unlikely Trump will be ousted through the impeachment process, but it is important to take this moral stand in defense of American democracy. At the very least, truths will come out that expose the true extent of corruption of the abomination that warms a seat in the Oval Office, and how most Republicans have sold their souls to the Devil. After the Republicans refuse to kick him out, the majority of vastly better-informed American citizens can vote out the whole danged bunch of them.
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Post by Kady on Sept 24, 2019 19:50:13 GMT -5
I am of two thoughts one is NO ONE is above the law when Mueller put out report there were some 10 instances of obstruction and abuse of power charges and now hiding the whistleblower report just another abuse of power Remember the whistleblower report isn’t JUST about one phone conversation there “multiple” concerns....Giving just the transcripts may play into Trump’s hand no sure if best now. We need to see the complaint too..... My other thought this will strengthen the lunatics in his base which may see Trump as a Martyr of the non-existent “Deep State” conspiracy and get the Criminal a second term!! Instead of rushing ahead....,,perhaps slowly investigating all avenues instead of quick emotional responses might be the correct way to proceed We have a mentally ill president who has taken Republicans hostages with his rhetoric and retaliation on Twitter They scared to make any move in fear he Tweet and they lose elections because of him Privately most Republicans dislike Trump I would imagine but no come out saying so .......They put The Man above Country and Constitution yes...those two things makes sense, I can see how either could happen. |
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Post by Kady on Sept 24, 2019 19:59:02 GMT -5
Well ...he may never be removed but the public will know the truth...they will know the Republicans that endorse a crook and they will know those that tried to do the right thing.....it beats doing nothing when we see the President being corrupt every day. with each scandal and catastrophe he pulls and gets by with it the more there will be....there has to be repercussion somewhere.
I agree! It's unlikely Trump will be ousted through the impeachment process, but it is important to take this moral stand in defense of American democracy. At the very least, truths will come out that expose the true extent of corruption of the abomination that warms a seat in the Oval Office, and how most Republicans have sold their souls to the Devil. After the Republicans refuse to kick him out, the majority of vastly better-informed American citizens can vote out the whole danged bunch of them.
Thank you formerlyme, you said it much better than me. I may just be a pollyanna, but who knows this just might cause the people to rise up and march in the streets...lol , Another tweet I read... It's not how many Republicans are in favor of impeachment when the hearings start that matters. It's how many Americans are in favor of impeachment when the hearings FINISH. |
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Sept 24, 2019 20:08:13 GMT -5
I am of two thoughts one is NO ONE is above the law when Mueller put out report there were some 10 instances of obstruction and abuse of power charges and now hiding the whistleblower report just another abuse of power Remember the whistleblower report isn’t JUST about one phone conversation there “multiple” concerns....Giving just the transcripts may play into Trump’s hand no sure if best now. We need to see the complaint too..... My other thought this will strengthen the lunatics in his base which may see Trump as a Martyr of the non-existent “Deep State” conspiracy and get the Criminal a second term!! Instead of rushing ahead....,,perhaps slowly investigating all avenues instead of quick emotional responses might be the correct way to proceed We have a mentally ill president who has taken Republicans hostages with his rhetoric and retaliation on Twitter They scared to make any move in fear he Tweet and they lose elections because of him Privately most Republicans dislike Trump I would imagine but no come out saying so .......They put The Man above Country and Constitution yes...those two things makes sense, I can see how either could happen. Just because the specter of impeachment is over Trump do no underestimate his ability to sway his base to rabid hatred of Democrats and the Media his two sworn enemies No count him out!! A cornered animal is very dangerous whether a lion or West Highland Terrier!! |
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Post by formerlyme on Sept 24, 2019 20:25:00 GMT -5
yes...those two things makes sense, I can see how either could happen. Just because the specter of impeachment is over Trump do no underestimate his ability to sway his base to rabid hatred of Democrats and the Media his two sworn enemies No count him out!! A cornered animal is very dangerous whether a lion or West Highland Terrier!! But what is the alternative...to just lay down and do nothing?!?
I realize that a desperate Trump will do desperate things (he has already proven that), but allowing criminal bullies to go unchallenged is to give them permission to continue their evil ways. Every infraction he gets away with emboldens him to go further and further with his manipulations. He is already a clear and present danger to everything that the USA has always held dear, like democracy, a free press, the electoral system, an independent judicial system.
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Post by chinadoll1981 on Sept 24, 2019 20:51:59 GMT -5
Just because the specter of impeachment is over Trump do no underestimate his ability to sway his base to rabid hatred of Democrats and the Media his two sworn enemies No count him out!! A cornered animal is very dangerous whether a lion or West Highland Terrier!! But what is the alternative...to just lay down and do nothing?!?
I realize that a desperate Trump will do desperate things (he has already proven that), but allowing criminal bullies to go unchallenged is to give them permission to continue their evil ways. Every infraction he gets away with emboldens him to go further and further with his manipulations. He is already a clear and present danger to everything that the USA has always held dear, like democracy, a free press, the electoral system, an independent judicial system.
Oh I agree I not say we should no forge ahead I just concerned about what Criminal will do next!! |
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